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A cheerful reflection on what might have been. THANKS for all the helpful reviews of past songs and in advance for your input on this one. Am still catching up from the holidays so apologies to those showcase tunes I haven't gotten to yet...

Wrong Place, Wrong Time

Key=G , Tempo 118, Length (m:s)=3:19
Style is _NAUSEA.STY (Nausea '90s Pop Rock with Organ)
RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 995:Bass, Electric, HardRockLA Ev 120
RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 2764:Organ, Rhythm CountryBluesRockMike Ev 110
RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 632:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted Ev 120
RealTracks in style: ** N/A ** 1259:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopShiningRockA-B Ev 120
RealDrums in style:RockHardKick^02-a:Closed Hat, Snare , b:Ride, Snare
Handclaps: EZ Drummer

Lyrics: R.W. Davis
Vocals: D.A. Hughes
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Lyrics:
The depth in your eyes
Caused me to shudder
And killed all the lies
I could have muttered
It would have done no good
To speak my thoughts
‘Cause we both knew
It was not our fault

We met in the wrong place
It was the wrong time
I fell in love with your face
But it made me blind
I never knew the taste
Of having you as mine
We met in the wrong place
It was the wrong time

The depth in your eyes
The smile on your lips
Oh, you looked so nice
That I couldn’t resist
Yeah, I might have tried it
Or tried to act cool
I might have applied it
But I didn’t know the rules

We met in the wrong place
It was the wrong time
I fell in love with your face
But it made me blind
I never knew the taste
Of having you as mine
We met in the wrong place
It was the wrong time

We met in the wrong place....

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Hi DC.
Tight sounding arrangement and fine melody.
To my ears the main vocal sounds a bit harsh and could use a bit of eq warmth.
I like it though.

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Nice pop song. This was fun to listen to.

I like the choice of the style. Nice 80's sounding pop rock.


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This is quintissential 60's pop if I've ever heard it! what a fun song (though I suppose the lyric is not fun)...this one makes you want to dance...great production indeed...the vocals were spot-on and reminicient of the light pop music of the late 60's and 70's...it reminded me of Peter Noon (Herman's Hermits) or Gary Lewis and the Playboys, etc. Loved it!


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Hi,

This is a promising song and good vocals.

It could perhaps benefit from a bit of development - maybe an instrumental solo in the middle and a "middle 8" to give it some light and shade.

Enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by vicarn
Hi DC.Tight sounding arrangement and fine melody. To my ears the main vocal sounds a bit harsh and could use a bit of eq warmth. I like it though. Vic

Vic, THANKS for the listen. Yep, high frequency hearing loss often trips me up on EQ side. Will listen again with a reference track to see if that helps.

Originally Posted by Guitarhacker
Nice pop song. This was fun to listen to. I like the choice of the style. Nice 80's sounding pop rock.

Herb, was sure the B3 would keep me in the decade of the 60s. Thanks for promoting me in the rock and roll timeline! Glad you enjoyed it.

Originally Posted by firesong
This is quintissential 60's pop if I've ever heard it! what a fun song (though I suppose the lyric is not fun)...this one makes you want to dance...great production indeed...the vocals were spot-on and reminicient of the light pop music of the late 60's and 70's...it reminded me of Peter Noon (Herman's Hermits) or Gary Lewis and the Playboys, etc. Loved it!

Firesong, OOF! Just when Herb promoted me to the 80's you've rolled me back another 10-20 years. Creating the urge to dance is very flattering. My mental storyboard when I put this together played a bit like the dance scene in Pulp Fiction. Love that stuff. THANKS for the input!

Originally Posted by NigelSpiers
Hi This is a promising song and good vocals.It could perhaps benefit from a bit of development - maybe an instrumental solo in the middle and a "middle 8" to give it some light and shade. Enjoyable.Best Regards Nigel

Nigel, great points, and I do prefer having an instrumental or middle eight, or BOTH. For this song I was shooting for the sub three minute pop song format, so jettisoned those as style choices. May have to build those back out for the album version though. Ha! FWIW, I STILL failed to get this under 3:00...THANKS for the listen!


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DC Ron, this is a great song
Super vocal and harmonies
Great lyrics
Great pop song genre
Very danceable tune
I would put this in the Gary Lewis and the Playboys era, i.e. the 1960s.
Good mix but FWIW I would bring the B3's volume up. That would definitely put it in the 60's.


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Hi Ron,

Man, your music is always so entertaining! Your singer always comes through with great performances. Of course, you always feed him great material to work with. That's a big plus. Still, he tops it off perfectly every time.

I really liked the hand claps that came in around 2:40 . That helped to further define it as a great sound from the early-to-mid '60s. For me, that was a great era for rock music. I was in high school at the time. Yeah, I'm older than the original recipe for dirt. But I got to enjoy some great music back in the day! And this would have been a perfect fit.

You keep pumping out one great hit after another. I know I'm in for a treat every time I click on one of your songs. It gives the feel of something in the middle between Gary Lewis & The Playboys and The Dave Clark Five. Maybe even a tiny bit of Manfred Mann.

Great listen - thanks for the big smile on my face! It's been a challenging day - I needed that!

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Originally Posted by MarioD
DC Ron, this is a great song Super vocal and harmonies Great lyrics Great pop song genre Very danceable tune I would put this in the Gary Lewis and the Playboys era, i.e. the 1960s. Good mix but FWIW I would bring the B3's volume up. That would definitely put it in the 60's.

Marty, THANKS for the listen! Yeah, went back and forth on placement of the B3. There's a a wide dynamic range on this RT (and many other BiaB organs) and so It doesn't sit perfectly to my ears without more manipulation than I had the patience for. I should work on that patience thing. Ha! Glad you enjoyed it!

Originally Posted by Al-David
Hi Ron, Man, your music is always so entertaining! Your singer always comes through with great performances. Of course, you always feed him great material to work with. That's a big plus. Still, he tops it off perfectly every time. I really liked the hand claps that came in around 2:40 . That helped to further define it as a great sound from the early-to-mid '60s. For me, that was a great era for rock music. I was in high school at the time. Yeah, I'm older than the original recipe for dirt. But I got to enjoy some great music back in the day! And this would have been a perfect fit. You keep pumping out one great hit after another. I know I'm in for a treat every time I click on one of your songs. It gives the feel of something in the middle between Gary Lewis & The Playboys and The Dave Clark Five. Maybe even a tiny bit of Manfred Mann. Great listen - thanks for the big smile on my face! It's been a challenging day - I needed that! Alan

Alan, sorry for your challenging day! I've said it before, but playing a role in creating a smile is the highest compliment I can process. So THANK YOU! Yeah, Dusty has a killer voice and an encyclopedic musical vocabulary to draw on. He's the best. The handclaps seemed like the obvious danceable accent on the final chorus. They were fun to do, too. Glad you enjoyed the song!


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Ron,

Man! I enjoy your music!
Quality writing, interesting Production - with your own twists, not just copying templates from the past...
D.A.'s vocals are always right on for the songs.
And a good mix.

Catchy.
Good Stuff.

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Really Cool song Ron.

It has a real 80s pop radio feel. The mix reminds me of the Cars but the sound reminds me of something else, maybe those guys who did Whip It.

Sounds great!

smile

By the way, who are your favorite bands from that Era?

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Originally Posted by floyd jane
Ron, Man! I enjoy your music! Quality writing, interesting Production - with your own twists, not just copying templates from the past...D.A.'s vocals are always right on for the songs. And a good mix. Catchy. Good Stuff. fj

Floyd, gee, THANKS for the listen and kind words! Can't claim credit for the amazing (IMHO) lyrics and vocals. I'm just trying to coax them into something fun to listen to. Needless to say, there's a lot of stuff on the cutting room floor. Ha!


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Good stuff! It's brings to mind several types of styles and time periods, but is uniquely yours. Very, good. Like the mix and the overall sound is great.

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Originally Posted by David Snyder
Really Cool song Ron. It has a real 80s pop radio feel. The mix reminds me of the Cars but the sound reminds me of something else, maybe those guys who did Whip It. Sounds great! smile By the way, who are your favorite bands from that Era?

David, well, THANKS! Favorite bands of that era...

I was lucky in that I could literally walk to the Agora Ballroom in Atlanta and see a lot of the seminal bands of the late 70s and early 80s. REM and The B-52s were just two of the many amazing LOCAL bands. Those two weren't even my favorites at the time (but they're right up there now). We also had a great college radio station (WRAS). I never listened to popular radio except by accident. Once I was driving in a friend's car and the DJ said, "Here's the blockbuster Number One song in America for the last 13 weeks, Debby Boone and You Light Up My Life..." I had never heard of the song or Ms Boone. I could not process how this was popular taste, and didn't try.

Music I listened to a LOT during that time:
REM
The B-52s
The Cars
Devo (Whip It!)
Elvis Costello
Graham Parker
Joe Jackson
The Clash
Warren Zevon
Darryl Rhoades
Jules and the Polar Bears

Geez, and so many more. It was a rich time and place, musically.

THANKS again for the listen. Glad you liked it! Ron


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Nice pop - not quite power pop but close. Sort of a The Cars song without the quirky bits.
The hand claps are pretty good.
I've found that blending in a couple of tracks of real hand claps makes a big difference...usually four machine tracks and two real ones - some REALLY small delay between each of the machine ones also humanizes a bit more - hard work though.


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rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze.

Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen.

You've got the knack for nice pop productions! smile


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Originally Posted by dcuny
rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze.
Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen.
You've got the knack for nice pop productions! smile
I love both Squeeze voices...I have most of their albums. I was also lucky enough to see the band in a pub about 5 miles from my then home on their 1st Australian tour. Late in 79.


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REM - didn't see them as they were "too popular" by the time they toured here. I was such a droob.
The B-52s - saw them - excellent.
The Cars - would love to have - I was hooked by their new wave Buddy Hollyness.
Devo (Whip It!) yep, the Coal Mine tour.
Elvis Costello - 1st tour and three or four after - including the Rude 5 and the Imposters.
Graham Parker - a couple of times - one of the best gigs.
Joe Jackson - bought the 1st album but didn't see him as I wasn't fussed on the 2nd.
The Clash - missed them, bought the 1st four albums but I didn't go because it was 82 and they'd bored me with The Sandanista.
Warren Zevon - so cool but nope.
Darryl Rhoades -I'll have to look that one up.
Jules and the Polar Bears - ditto.


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Originally Posted by Brad Williams
Good stuff! It's brings to mind several types of styles and time periods, but is uniquely yours. Very, good. Like the mix and the overall sound is great. Brad

Brad, so glad you like it! Thank you for the listen.

Originally Posted by rayc
Nice pop - not quite power pop but close. Sort of a The Cars song without the quirky bits. The hand claps are pretty good. I've found that blending in a couple of tracks of real hand claps makes a big difference...usually four machine tracks and two real ones - some REALLY small delay between each of the machine ones also humanizes a bit more - hard work though.

Ray, thanks! But what would The Cars be without the quirky bits? Ha! Thanks for the hand clap tip, I'll try that next time. It was the last thing I recorded, and I probably rushed it a bit. Thanks as well for sharing your reflections on my artist list. It strikes me as an important era musically, and not just because I was in the middle of it.

Originally Posted by dcuny
rayc stole my line - nice pop. Your lead singer reminds me a bit of Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze. Nice production, nothing heavy but fun listen. You've got the knack for nice pop productions! smile

David, glad you liked it! Geez, I left Squeeze off my list! Saw Jools Holland era Squeeze a couple of times and have all their music. Amazing band with amazing songs. Glenn has one of the purest voices ever and loved the way he and Chris Difford would harmonize in octaves. But I like my vocalist's voice a little more. He's amazing. Thanks for listening and the compliments!


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Ron,

Great music! Love the sound you are getting. Agree with all the other references - this is quite the pop mashup. Excellent lyrics, vocals and production.

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Nice pop sound! Very much reminds me of the Cars as others have mentioned.

Excellent vocal!

Good production overall, hand claps especially really work.

Enjoyed!

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Originally Posted by rsdean
Ron, Great music! Love the sound you are getting. Agree with all the other references - this is quite the pop mashup. Excellent lyrics, vocals and production. Bob

THANKS, Bob!

Originally Posted by BlueAttitude
Nice pop sound! Very much reminds me of the Cars as others have mentioned. Excellent vocal! Good production overall, hand claps especially really work. Enjoyed!

Dave, glad you liked it! Think Candy-O is burned into my brain, but it doesn't hurt at all. Ha!


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Oh, so well done, Ron. A feast for the ears. Cool how you add the right piece to move the song along and change the dynamics in a subtle way. Excellent vocal, and I enjoy the well-mixed band.


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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
Oh, so well done, Ron. A feast for the ears. Cool how you add the right piece to move the song along and change the dynamics in a subtle way. Excellent vocal, and I enjoy the well-mixed band.

Marty, thanks for the listen! Arrangement dynamics can be a lot of fun, but can be risky, too. Glad this worked for you! Love everything my vocalist does. He is amazing.


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Excellent vocals and arrangement (handclaps worked well) and a very good lyric too.

The mix is top tier and sounds great on the KRK's. The drums sound really good too.

We are late to the party and many accolades have been served up ... all of which we agree with.

So, as Janice just commented "his music is always a pleasure to listen to!"

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Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
Excellent vocals and arrangement (handclaps worked well) and a very good lyric too. The mix is top tier and sounds great on the KRK's. The drums sound really good too. We are late to the party and many accolades have been served up ... all of which we agree with. So, as Janice just commented "his music is always a pleasure to listen to!" J&B

Janice & Bud, well, THANK YOU for the listen and the nice thoughts. Glad you both liked it!


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Excellent tune. Loved the groove. Mix was excellent as well. Super vocal and lyric. Well done..


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Hello Ron,

I read all the comments on this song and I can only agree with all the compliments.
I will not add more bands or so, you did a good job.
I liked the BG in the last words of every line in the chorusses. Very effective!
Your vocals are good, and also the way you sing in this song.
I remember telling you to use more variation in the highs and lows at the end of each line, but here it is ok!

I was also thinking of what Nigel suggested about a solo guitar as a break, but I don't think the song needs that.
Whatever, I enjoyed your song and that is what matters ;-)

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Originally Posted by Scott C
Excellent tune. Loved the groove. Mix was excellent as well. Super vocal and lyric. Well done..

Scott, glad you liked it! My lyricist and vocalist WAY outclass me for sure. Keeps me on my toes though. Ha!

Originally Posted by Birchwood
Hello Ron, I read all the comments on this song and I can only agree with all the compliments. I will not add more bands or so, you did a good job. I liked the BG in the last words of every line in the chorusses. Very effective! Your vocals are good, and also the way you sing in this song. I remember telling you to use more variation in the highs and lows at the end of each line, but here it is ok! I was also thinking of what Nigel suggested about a solo guitar as a break, but I don't think the song needs that. Whatever, I enjoyed your song and that is what matters ;-) Hans

Hans, THANKS for the listen and the many comments. Really appreciate it when you and others reflect on what you are hearing. As you know, by the time I've listened to a song 100 times I'm not able to hear it with fresh ears any more. So you and the other forum members help me listen anew. Really glad you liked it!


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We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!

Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a

If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!

Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function

One of the new features added with Band-in-Box® 2024 is the Tracks Window, which will look familiar if you've worked with other DAWs.

Henry Clarke explains why he loves the Re-generation function within the Tracks Window in their video Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function.

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Learn even more about what the Tracks Window can do with our video Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Tracks Window.

User Video: Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®

The Bob Doyle Media YouTube channel is known for demonstrating how you can creatively incorporate AI into your projects - from your song projects to avatar building to face swapping, and more!

His latest video, Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box, he explains in detail how you can use the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box with ACE Studio. Follow along as he goes from "nothing" to "something" with his Band-in-a-Box MIDI Melodist track, using ACE Studio to turn it into a vocal track (or tracks, you'll see) by adding lyrics for those notes that will trigger some amazing AI vocals!

Watch: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box


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