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In the US, this is what we call Chapter 11—court supervised reorganization with some relief in debt repayment schedule.. Francisco Partners, their venture capital overlords got them into this. I expect that some divisions will be consolidated and others sold. That’s a lot of quit valuable IP. Some are waiting to see if Muse Group will suffer the same fate. Francisco Partners put up the many billion$ for them to acquire Hal Leonard and other entities.
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Hi Herb! I'm listening through Sennheiser open-backed headphones. Here's what I noted ... 0.00 Guitar - quiet 0.13 Piano - good 0.35 Steel - good 1.02 Guitar - quiet 1.08 Steel - quiet 1.10 Guitar - quiet 1.15 Steel - good 1.23 Guitar - quiet 1.39 Piano - good 2.05 Steel - good 2.22 Piano - good 2.25 Guitar - quiet Where 'good' means consistently sitting above the band, while 'quiet' can be heard but not quite as distinct above the band as the piano and steel. Note the steel was also quiet at 1:08. This piece would come under the descriptor 'rollicking' in my book - real likeable toe-tapper! Andrew PS I should say I have just had a hearing test and have noticeable drop-off in both ears from 1500hz and significant above 3000hz - in case that's affecting what I'm hearing.
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I’ve been gigging with an iPad for many years now. Many music players take too long to search and load. TwistedWave did not. Touch the song file, it’s loaded and ready to play. I could use Bluetooth but my portable PA systems both have a USB-A port. A USB-A to USB-C cable gets the job done.
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Hey, Ron. I'm really impressed with your melody, story line, and finesse with your guitar. Your vocals are unique and personable which is a great plus for the folk style that you have. Few actually have that combination which makes you stand out. Your bouncy melody and quirky lyrics make for a song I would listen to over and again...certainly an excellent album cut. John
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This sounds like a live performance in a good way. It captures all the naturalness of the performance without a bunch of processing. I love the sparseness of the two instruments. Good singing too! Thank you so much Ezekiel's Storm, yes it is lesson in letting the bass dictate the tempo as opposed to a drummer, and I too like the air between the times I fingerpick and such. Thank you again. Donny G
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Muso, if you joined in 2020, as your avatar shows, than honestly, I believe you are the first person I know from my time here that constantly pitches RB.
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Rusty. I'll keep this brief as I'm going through some minor medical stuff. So the fact that some people come on these forums and detail they have done over 80 songs in RB counts for nothing ? I'm a Reaper user but I also like real band. Rb does things I haven't seen in any other music software including band in a Box... I've posted the differences with band in a box on these forums. Both biab and rb have their advantages and differences. I've done a ton of songs using the Reaper real band and band in a box combo. Happiness Om
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Rustyspoon#, It is a very nice machine. The benefit of purchasing a laptop at Costco here in the US is that on top of the (in this case, one year) MSI warranty, they add another year (or two) of warranty as well as phone/email support via Costco. If parts are needed, then for sure Lenovo is exceptional in offering replacements parts or indeed full replacements if your purchase their add on support when purchasing from them directly. Indeed, this was very useful when I was at business school in Durham, NC - not far from Lenovo's HQ - and they gave me a complete replacement of my ThinkPad (this was post the IBM hardware transition) when it died. There were some lovely Legion and Zephyrus deals that started today as part of the President's Day sale at Best Buy. Again, these are not endorsements, but simply the next computers that I would consider if I wasn't working through my current MSI set up. The Legion is $480 off, down to $1799. Lenovo - Legion 7i 16" 2.5k OLED Gaming Laptop - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2025 - 32GB RAM - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 - 1TB SSD - Glacier White https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lenovo-legion-7i-16-2-5k-oled-gaming-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-2025-32gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-1tb-ssd-glacier-white/JJGSH3Y5H9/sku/6617095 The Zephyrus is $500 off, down to $1899. ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G14 14" 3K OLED 120Hz Gaming Laptop - Copilot+ PC - AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX - 32GB RAM - NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti - 1TB - Platinum White https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-zephyrus-g14-14-3k-oled-120hz-gaming-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-32gb-ram-nvidia-rtx-5070-ti-1tb-platinum-white/JJGGLHJXQ9/sku/6613954 Tom Marvan.
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Steve, why not get another laptop as a backup? It doesn't need to be an expensive one, just one to run as a backup. I believe that is what Notes does. Hey Mario, another laptop could be an option for a backup but the volume of gear is starting to add up. I'm looking for a small footprint device like a DAP. But if I use a USB cable to carry the audio data to my Tascam I need to ensure that the DAP will be simultaneously charged (by USB) while it's playing music; otherwise I've introduced another failure mode . . . a dead battery.
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Hey, KW! Pink? Really? Wow, even better! I like that comparison! I think Marilyn will be flattered. I've been picking and choosing which and how many instruments to use in verses and chorus. For a more energetic powered song like that, the variety works well...mostly to bring out the vocalist in the verses. I use Studio One Pro (now called Fender...huh???) and limit the tricks I have to do. Lots of times, Band in a Box's tracks are produced in the software so well that there's only a few mixing tricks I might have to do. The only instrument I had to do was the string section after the guitar solo. I stopped the Band in a Box strings and let my midi controller take over. Since my physical coordination leaves something to be desired, I use the piano roll to edit a lot, plus the piano edit is where I'll experiment with harmonies. Robert is very modest about his part in it. He thinks he just came up with some ideas and it wasn't that much. He did much, much more than he acknowledges. He overhauled the story masterfully and gave it exactly what it needed. Thanks much! Best to you. John
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rharv, "This whole argument is workflow related." Agreed. But so is everything else, from baking to house building. Cliché, but one of the main ideas behind of software is that it's not hardware and it should evolve. I believe current method existed way before Track View. Now they need to integrate existing functions to current reality. In 7 years I was here, I am yet to see any (!) new member come in and praise RB. There must be a good reason for that. Just think about that statement for a moment. Prove me wrong. Again, instead of sending people to traditional Daw for basic task as this, there should be a straight forward and widely accepted method to record audio in BIAB - PGM's flagship product. Maybe not as advanced as some posters mentioned comparing with other titles, but user friendly. I just hope they will get some user input on this, as they did with UI to avoid making something that will not be accepted well by those who want and understand the benefit of good workflow concerning audio recording in BIAB.
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I like what Rusty (Misha) and others are saying. We can hope that they promise authorizations will remain possible even if the worst happens to the company.
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Congratulations and good luck, Bob. If there is anyone here who doesn't know Notes, his BIAB aftermarket styles are excellent. I've known this since the mid-1990s. He has the support and respect of PG Music. And as he can tell you, he uses MIDI for its strengths, but you can change tracks to RealTracks if you prefer.
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Really nice sound through my cans Herb. Guitar sounds a little quieter compared to the keys, but other than that all good. A real toe tapping travelling song indeed. Excellent, kind regards. have another listen, I edited it
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Herb, cool song. On the soloists, I listened on studio monitors and studio headphones. Am reminded of the story of the Three Bears... The steel is a little soft The piano is a little hard (Also: Sounds like stereo, but is way to the right) The guitar is just right Just my takeaways on my gear. Have noticed balancing disparity between sound sources many times with my songs, and know it can be frustrating. Another mix.... I bumped up the levels and EQ'd a few things..... and edited a few things that weren't sitting right with me.
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Really nice sound through my cans Herb. Guitar sounds a little quieter compared to the keys, but other than that all good. A real toe tapping travelling song indeed. Excellent, kind regards.
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You certainly have a good way with lyrics Ron. Who’d thought you could make a connection between nouveau painting and eye floaters! A beautifully subtle song style Ron. Your vocal delivery is always spot on. Really enjoyed it, kind regards.
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Great articulate storytelling Bob,, Another well crafted production from you, kind regards.
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Hi John That’s a quality production and feel you’ve got on this song. I know you say it’s Motown, but Marilyn has got a bit of a Pink sound and attitude in the vocal. The harmony and BVs are terrific. Robert’s done a great job on the lyrics. Lots of light and shade between the verses and chorus. Good guitar choice for the solo. Well done John, you’re putting up a lot of varied styles. Excellent, kind regards.
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This whole argument is workflow related. Once you have spent time in a DAW & then try BiaB, it's a battle. Some people come in here via that route. Which is why I sometimes recommend RB, as it's workflow is much more DAW like. It's not a leading edge DAW, but it offers the BiaB advantages in a DAW like workflow, though the GUI still needs a bit of getting used to. No 32 bar choruses and regenerating evey time you hit play, instead you generate what you want where you want on any track. And have more & more intuitive control. I know, none of this answers how to record in BiaB, but it does say PGMusic also gives you another way (free with BiaB) to do what it does. Try it, you may like it better. I do. Every time I open BiaB, trying to do normal DAW stuff just takes more effort.
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I'd go to the support page, download the latest update for 2025, and install it. Pay attention to where things install and let it install the PGPlugins again if given the option. https://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm If that doesn't reinstall them try (re)installing BiaB latest update for that year https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm One of them re-installs them if you let it. // according to a post above, the readme says we can share our compiled binary file that contains all of those TGS files, and I would do that, but it may overwrite some presets I have changed and/or add some I have. So I don't recommend that route unless you and a friend have been sharing it for reasons, which I can definitely see the benefit of doing. Sending my TGS files to to another location could be very handy when working on a mix, as long as both systems have the same FX available, etc. But not in this situation
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I've used PG Dynamics and PG Reverb quite a bit over the years. These have been useful plugins.
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Scroll 9 posts up. Tracks need basic standardized controls for audio. Arm/Disarm/Level at track level.
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I guess one could put something in the notes text to remind where the changes are, or there is/was an option on F5 to list all changes within the song. Hi Gordon. Indeed there is an option that you might find useful. It's under the Layers icon and it's called "Bar Settings". If you activate this, your bar settings will show on the chordsheet. (As you will be able to see on the image below, I've set the tempo of bar 9 to 56.) --Noel ★ my latest song using BIAB and Synth V: A World Of Wonder
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