Just done this v5 quick review / tutorial (in Spanish, but with English subtitles) I wish this tool had existed 20 years ago, it would have saved me countless hours of work.
Nice tutorial. Agreed, 20 years ago, this would have been very nice. Although I like the workflow, this doesn't appear to do anything that I can't do in a few other apps including Logic 12 (which I own but haven't had the time to test yet). Not sure that the refined workflow is worth $100 to me nowadays.
Yes it does help. The three songs are placeholders and do nothing I will delete them in the next build. Yes the help menu needs updating. I had to take a break for a couple weeks hope to hit it again this next week. I will create a folder of test songs.
There are no stem splitters or vocal extractors that do a quality job. Oh yeah, they're halfway decent and get the job done but it's still subtractive. That means it doesn't have the quality of an original track. The timbre and character are missing. It's weak and watery sounding and filled with artifacts from the extraction process and the missing data. Until extraction is able to not only extract the instrument or vocal and then rebuild the track and replace the missing data, it's only going to be a shadow of what musicians expect to hear. t
I partially agree, I can generally hear all of the quality issues you mention, but even with that "halfway decent and get the job done.." can be pretty damn good. I understand this is likely not what pro players and producers are looking for, but most of us are not pros. Here is a recent example I posted yesterday: https://soundcloud.com/danjhoch/play-me-071026-cover The source was a Youtube video. I extracted two stems, 1) Vocal and 2) the guitar (the rest). There were no other instruments in the original song. The only original content in my cover is the guitar stem. I admit it is weak at times and has artifacts (very minimal). I have done what I can to mask any quality issues. In my opinion "halfway decent does get the job done". Listen and comment if you care to.
Duct tape. Ok, maybe not. Do you have a buddy that is a machinist? You can also carry the part to a store and see if you can get some off the shelf fittings to work. It might involve securing different parts that will do the same job. A pipe or conduit 90° fitting, a drill bit, and a couple of pins. Think out of the box. I've rigged up a number of things in my life using a little bit of thought on how can I accomplish this in a different way.
There are no stem splitters or vocal extractors that do a quality job. Oh yeah, they're halfway decent and get the job done but it's still subtractive. That means it doesn't have the quality of an original track. The timbre and character are missing. It's weak and watery sounding and filled with artifacts from the extraction process and the missing data. Until extraction is able to not only extract the instrument or vocal and then rebuild the track and replace the missing data, it's only going to be a shadow of what musicians expect to hear. I have no doubt that at some point, this will happen, but we're not at that point quite yet
Just done this v5 quick review / tutorial (in Spanish, but with English subtitles) I wish this tool had existed 20 years ago, it would have saved me countless hours of work.
Hi David! Your vocal expresses the frustration and fatigue of fighting against the illogical. The pace of the song is anthemic. It’s a call back to what we are truly called to believe and live. Andrew
What I like and find fascinating about this song is that even though line upon line the lyrics don’t have any connection, my brain is still trying to find a connection and make sense of it. And at the end of it, it’s convinced that there is some structural meaning to the song.
Once you identify the connection, please let me know. I’m half inclined to think my subconscious is trying to tell me something.
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I think the stripped back and clean arrangement works really well, as it gives the listener a good chance to hear the disconnections and mess with their thought processes.
I didn’t want too much clutter, thinking ‘less is more’ but hadn’t thought how this might help the listener - I’ll have to keep this in mind for future!
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I'm always surprised how all three of us have completely different takes on the same challenge, it’s good. What? I have never heard such complete and utter nonsense! So you have absolutely nailed this months brief Andrew.
I think I’ve always had a propensity for nonsense - or is that a proclivity? In recognition of your comment, I’ve just nailed my briefs to the wall.
Originally Posted by MarioD
I don't know what you guys down there are smoking or drinking but I want some! You and Lee post some extremely interesting and excellent music.
We’re drinking Australian made coffee - I mostly have a ‘flat white’ (think cappuccino without the froth) or ‘dirty chai’ (a chai latte with a shot of coffee). We’re cut from the same cloth in so many ways and have been influencing each other for over 50 years albeit with a hiatus in the middle. What a blessing to have a long-term friendship!
Originally Posted by musician17
The song is superb. The lyrics are delightfully confusing. You've done a wonderful job here ... my attention was kept throughout. The lack of "sense" in the lyrics meant that I could just relax and listen, without "trying to follow". Sounds like John Lennon in places. Great, great job.
‘Delightfully confusing’ … we could almost say enigmatic, and I’ve always wanted to be an enigma.
Originally Posted by David Snyder
And a very funny video!
I’ve watched far too many YouTube reaction videos, so that is what inspired the video. I was really heartened to find that Clipchamp had a giphy for ‘Manchurian folklore’!
Originally Posted by WaoBand
Musically a great production and your vocals suit the 'nonsense' lyrics.
I’m taking that as a compliment!
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In my early 20s I went through a period of writing 'nonsense' poetry, though it was more like surrealism. One poem is titled "Gentleness or The Wood To Wood Coast Turpentine of Palomino Spectroscope"! Maybe I should compose an instrumental with the same title?!
It would be interesting to hear how you interpret this musically, and whether you have sufficient graphics in your home-grown library! … and good use of the interrobang in your response! Thank you Lee, Mario, James, David and Chay for listening and commenting! Andrew
David, You always write killer lyrics . . . this one is no exception. Melody is compelling; production is raw and powerful, which fits the tune well. Good stuff! Deej
I have officially checked out of reality. The news is too much. The world out there is a lunatic asylum. So here is my song. As I may have said before, I have a lot of music projects going on and I work with one band that includes the keyboard player in my very first band. We are still writing and playing together to this day. His name is Jon. He is playing the piano, synth and sax on this and I think he killed it myself. Nothing beats a band. Hope you like it. We Can't Live in Their World No More by David Snyder https://www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder/song/35477805-we-cant-live-in-their-world-no V1 Oh baby this world Asks too much of you and me with all the things it asks us to accept and then believe CH When I see all that they are taking And I see that your heart is breaking and my hands and my legs are shaking as they’re breaking down the door It’s time to fight All night Cause nothing down here is right And we can’t live We can’t live In their world no more V2 We used to think we could outrun it thought it would be different this year but now if you even argue you get crucified or you just disappear CH When I see all that they are taking And I see that your heart is breaking and my hands and my legs are shaking as they’re breaking down the door It’s time to fight All night Cause nothing down here is right And we can’t live We can’t live In their world no more BRIDGE God never said They get to own it I got a punch in the face If they want it CH And it’s time to fight All night Cause we can’t live We can’t live In their world no more We can’t live In their world no more All music copyright 2026 by David Snyder ASCAP/Day of Faith Records David Snyder: Guitars, vocals, production, mixing, mastering Jon Healey: Piano, synths, sax RealTracks in style: ~387:Bass, Electric, Metal Ev 085 RealTracks in style: 3927:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm AltRockGrittyChugging8thsHard Ev 070 RealTracks in song: 1267:Synth Pad, PopShiningA-B Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 2690:Guitar, Electric, Soloist Slow16thsPopBrentSimple Ev16 075 RealDrums in style:BluesRockSlowEv^5-a:Snare , b:Snare, Ride
Hey sounds great to me still! I still remember the original, I believe. Sounded very familiar so I guessed I loved it the first time! Great work y'all.
Hey Marty, Great song and a real toe tapper. Tons of fun! Man how did you make that video? Can you tell me how you did it and which program you used? That was awesome.
thanks Jeff. My essential version is so limited in content it is hard to use it for anything. I have seen what tonalics can do and I do like how it synchs so nicely with my music which is almost always Tempo Map driven for all my midi FX. In my hands, BIAB RTs fails me since synching. I do a lot of this type of production so I will likely just pop for the $45 to have the full tool available. I finalized a project yesterday where I initially wanted a guitar in the Break/Solo section. Since there was nothing available in my limited essential version, I selected to use EZKeys instead. Check out the Break Section if you care too - ~ 14 bars. I suppose I could have squeezed in a RT, but I was under a time crunch and my BIAB skills have dulled with lack of usage. https://soundcloud.com/danjhoch/play-me-071026-cover
Dan, I use Tonalic Pro. It is really good at rhythms parts guitars/bass and drums. The level of chord control is tighter than even micro chords. Its library is still limited compared to BIAB. However, If you are looking for more realistic lead parts, I find comping phrases together using BIAB plugin to generate 7 phrase tracks and then Comping the best of the lead phrases together in the DAW using the human ear to be the most effective way to get realistic solo parts down. The plugin has the ability to use different chords than the song, allowing drone pedal style leads or different chords that can create harmonies to the main progression. This works good for Lead guitar (electric or acoustic), saxophone and horn solos.
Thank you all for your input. Kipp looks like a last resort. From what I see, it would probably mean all 6 T-joints would need replacing. 3D printing might work, but I'm sure how much stress the replacement would take. I'll never buy another Ultimate Support product again, either. If you want to get someone to buy your product, and you offer a lifetime guarantee to do just that, you should honor that guarantee, or else, your original offer is fraudulent. If you are willing to deceive a prospective customer that way, what other lies are you telling? If you meant 3 or 10 years, say so. If you say lifetime, mean it. I'm still alive and gigging, and hope to be so for at least another 20 years. This stand fits my needs perfectly and anything else I've researched could work, but not nearly as well. I did some research and found they are made of polycarbonate. I found some glue that is advertised for that and I'll give it a try. In the meantime I'll keep searching for replacements.
I was interested in your app, so I clicked on your link to see what it was about. In that process, I thought of a few suggestions from the perspective of a "user" who has never laid eyes on your app (or any other "app" that installs in a browser). I'm using edge on a win 11 laptop, so that's the platform of the installation. I ran the install routine after determining that the install directions were just a little bit off. A complete computer illiterate (my spouse) would probably have given up. Here's my suggestion for a more clear install instructions (for Edge): 🪟 Windows Edge The app is the link [ https://chordbooklite.surge.sh/ ] to be pasted into your address bar if it doesn't already appear there. Open the app in Edge by pressing [ Enter ] Edge: click the ⋯ "menu" (three dots in the upper right) → "More Tools" > "Apps" → "Install this site as an app" Click Install and when finished, the app appears in your Start menu and taskbar ✅ (The "More Tools" submenu selection was missing in the instructions) The next thing I determined is that the songs listed were apparently only text with no actual pdf's or song files for testing. That kind of put the brakes on my testing plans for the app, since I'm not able to dig around for a pdf and matching mp3 to test with. It would be helpful if there were a link on your website for a few files to download for testing just to see and get a feel of how the program runs. One thing I did notice is that the error screen for a missing pdf file had dark red text on dark grey. That was almost impossible to read on my laptop. Also, there is a button in the upper left that says EXIT. I was seeking a way to return to the main screen and I debated if EXIT meant "close the program" or "return to previous", or whatever. After pressing EXIT I found that it was to return to previous. Perhaps BACK might be an alternative (thinking for my spouse) Finally, a YT video showing installation, using the app and the features would be extra slick. Kinda gives a jump-start on how to and what to do. Not criticizing at all, it sounds like a neat program. Your request was for input, so I hope this helps. BluegrassPicker
Jeff, at the request of a user here, a year ago I tried extracting a bass line in each product. The sound of Studio One 7 Pro was ever so slightly better (fuller, fatter sounding). Since then both products upgraded. I just now installed my free upgrade of SMP 5. I’ll be giving it a whirl soon.
Thanks everyone for the overview of what has change. I've never quite pulled the trigger on this product yet. My DAW Fender Studio Pro has a lot of the same capabilities. - Chord detection - Tempo detection - Audio to MIDI - Stem separation - Import lyrics from external sources. - Score from MIDI Can someone who runs Fender Studio Pro tell me if this is redundant or much better than the built in capabilities?
This has a good Lucinda vibe but saying that, it also makes us think you’re like the Merle Haggard of folk-Americana. That may seem odd but we often feel like we’re part of your conversation in the song as we do with many of his tunes. Joliz’s bgv’s fits so well with the band’s rhythm and adds to the feeling of motion throughout the song. The sparse band is excellent support for your very engaging spoken vocal delivery. And the horns were a very nice addition. The video was excellent and the sepia FX was a great choice. Enjoyed it! J&B
Great song, Izzy. I like the way you built up the tracks leading to the chorus. One small nit I have was the solo cuts out too abruptly, imho. It really is a small nit though. Vic
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Maybe I should compose an instrumental with the same title?! 
Great work y'all.
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