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You are correct. I have always said the WMA files are not a serious problem unless someone writes they have a limited storage on a laptop and don’t want to use an external drive. It’s more the principle of the thing as we get more and more each year. Jeff, I did not know the new installer allows choosing FLAC only. Thanks for this info. It does alter my requested solution a little. I don’t generally do any automated downloads or installs; I’m still a manual guy because I like to know exactly what’s being done.
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Matt I agree to your idea about having a Dashboard for FLAC versus WMA and a cleaning utility. The latest 2026 install of audiophile does have the option for FLAC only. Interestingly enough, if you're doing an overlay install and not a complete delete 1TB and add 1TB, then you will still end up with the 2026 FLAC files and the 2025 WMA files on your local drive. The savings by not installing the WMA's is approximately 130 GB. Knowing their priority algorithm and if you have the space it's not huge problem. To answer the question can you tell the difference audible, the answer is yes.
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Thanks Scott, Torrey, Shigeki and Noel for checking out the song. So glad you liked it. Happy New Year
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Excellent guitar work. Very cool takes on two of our traditional Christmas songs. Happy New Year.
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I believe they're still working on. It also needs a search or to make the window non-modal so that it you can click on an object to identify its name.
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Cool song. Excellent mix and production. I must say I like the music production from the first and the vocals from the original the best. Both very well done however. Happy New Year.
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Very cool chord progression. Lovely feel to the song. Well done. Happy New Year
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................................... Thanks for adding the teachers. I owe them a lot. I don't know that I personally would include #4. I enjoy photography, and think I'm at least decent at it, but don't consider that a success, just a nice hobby. But then, the definition of successful could mean the meal I cooked last night turned out the way I planned it. Same here Notes. I owe a lot to my music teachers. I also enjoy photography. FWIW if I take a picture, run it through my photography software, and it comes out looking great I think I was successful. I feel the same way about making music in that if I write a song worth posting then I was successful. Others may call it a personal goal. As we both have indicated the term success is ambiguous.
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Jeff, I think my article that Trevor linked is all still accurate. What is a bit of a problem is that it’s incomplete as to storage issues. No, you should not install both FLAC and WMA, but you have no choice! Yes, I’ve requested a utility to sort this out. If your computer has loads of space, all you want is all WAV. If your space is limited and you aren’t using the computer as a production machine (think laptop to compose while traveling), you want all FLAC. The problem is, for older version, you frequently have all three versions of the same RealTrack installed and cannot do anything about that. I would like something similar to Help, What Add-ons Do I Have. It would say something like: 77% of your Real Tracks are WAV and WMA. 11% of your RealTracks are WMA only 3% of your RealTracks are FLAC and WMA. 1% of your RealTracks are FLAC only. 8% of your RealTracks are WAV, FLAC, and WMA. And then it would let you do something about that, including deleting all WMA when either WAV or FLAC existed, etc. AND letting you buy what you are missing in the file format you prefer.
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[quote=MarioD FWIW - Here are my definitions of musical success: ............................................... Are you providing definitions of musical success, or musician categories? I think categories. Chapter 7 is interesting. It’s also important to distinguish celebrity from expertise. The factors that contribute to celebrity would be different from, maybe wholly unrelated to, those that contribute to expertise. Neil Young told me that he did not consider himself especially talented as a musician, rather, he was one of the lucky ones who managed to become commercially successful. Few people get to pass through the turnstiles of a deal with a major record label, and fewer still maintain careers for decades as Neil has done. In my humble opinion, I'd say Neil is a talented muscian and a top-shelf songwriter, plus I love his stuff  [/quote] As I clearly stated those are my my definitions of musical success. One can be successful in all 4 categories. I suppose it could be described as categories but to me categories would be beginner, intermediate, pro, as well as country artist, jazz artist, etc. I agree. Neil is a very talented musician and songwriter. I have read a number of recorded musicians say the same thing. I believe they are just being modest and not bragging about how good they really are. YMMV
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Jeff, here is an objective response as accurately as we currently know. FLAC files are lossless. (Free Lossless Audio Codec). As we understand things, BIAB will search for .flac files to use as its first priority. If not available (file does not exist), then it will use the next available file with the same file name with compressed file type (.wma). The main program does not differentiate between file types, it chooses the best available as its first preference (.flac, .wav). Being able to differentiate the audio quality between file types is also somewhat subjective, as it depends on many other variables, especially including speakers and room conditions. Professional recording studios would always choose lossless audio as their primary choice. There is an excellent discussion on the topic here. Hope this clarifies the situation for you.
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That gets me to the question of what is the definition of being successful? Regarding the definition of being musically successful, I think we need to recognize 2 things. 1. That musical success is also on a spectrum and not Boolean 2. The context ........................................... FWIW - Here are my definitions of musical success: 1-Those who are assigned to major record companies, tour, and make it big time. 2-Those who make a living via music, not including those in #1. This includes bands, music teachers, and orchestras. 3-Those who have made money playing music as an avocation. 4-Those who just sit at home and enjoy making music. These are just my definitions and yours may vary. Feel free to modify my lists. PS - I would put Notes in the #2 definition and myself in first #3 and now in #4. {edit} added music teachers to the list Thanks for adding the teachers. I owe them a lot. I don't know that I personally would include #4. I enjoy photography, and think I'm at least decent at it, but don't consider that a success, just a nice hobby. But then, the definition of successful could mean the meal I cooked last night turned out the way I planned it.
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Love flac rec n play. Many songs in my sig vocs done flac ... Run tests.if you doubt me Would love flac recording of my vocs and gtr in rb.. Om
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That gets me to the question of what is the definition of being successful? Regarding the definition of being musically successful, I think we need to recognize 2 things. 1. That musical success is also on a spectrum and not Boolean 2. The context ........................................... FWIW - Here are my definitions of musical success: 1-Those who are assigned to major record companies, tour, and make it big time. 2-Those who make a living via music, not including those in #1. This includes bands, music teachers, and orchestras. 3-Those who have made money playing music as an avocation. 4-Those who just sit at home and enjoy making music. These are just my definitions and yours may vary. Feel free to modify my lists. PS - I would put Notes in the #2 definition and myself in first #3 and now in #4. {edit} added music teachers to the list Are you providing definitions of musical success, or musician categories? I think categories. Chapter 7 is interesting. It’s also important to distinguish celebrity from expertise. The factors that contribute to celebrity would be different from, maybe wholly unrelated to, those that contribute to expertise. Neil Young told me that he did not consider himself especially talented as a musician, rather, he was one of the lucky ones who managed to become commercially successful. Few people get to pass through the turnstiles of a deal with a major record label, and fewer still maintain careers for decades as Neil has done. In my humble opinion, I'd say Neil is a talented muscian and a top-shelf songwriter, plus I love his stuff
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What are the advantages in installing the FLAC files? Should both the lossy files and the FLAC files be installed? Does having both lossy and FLAC files installed cause any problems for BIAB or RB? Can BIAB or RB be forced to use one or the other? I guess the real question is can I hear a difference between lossless and lossy? Jeff
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Thanks Noel, appreciate your help with this. It looks like I have all of these. The issue seems to be one of labeling in the Install Manager i.e. sets 1 & 2 are just labelled as set 2, sets 5 and 6 are just labelled as set 5, sets 9 and 10 are not clearly designated at all. Still in looking at the order summary in my account I have all of the required files and the Install Manager shows they are all installed. So all is good here. Thanks Noel! Jeff
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Yes, a very helpful thread indeed! Thanks for all the help guys! Jeff
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Happy New Year to you too, Billy. I've been following a lot of info on AI. What's obvious is that this is still the 'tip of the iceberg' and a lot of water will still flow. New frontiers. New directions, Brick walls? Unanticipated encounters? Wonderful successes? Who knows? There will be push back, challenges, and more. But AI won't go away. Anyway, my $2. (2 cents ain't worth nothing no more  )
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Henry continues to deliver some amazing material. He is an accomplished musician and producer, and in the background he is a great ambassador to PGM's products.
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What I meant by "suno won". I was alluding to the fact that they beat the current competition to the starting line of a possible legal future for AI music. What happens next is undecided, and even when it is "decided," it may not stick. Remember Roe versus Wade? Final law right! Well, not even. Here is the thing: if money can be made, effort will be applied to try to force others out of the way. And the battle goes on. All of us here are just standing on the corner, observing the drama. And our observations are only on the surface. "Look out, kid, they keep it all hid," Bobby warned you of that some time ago...lol At any rate, happy New Year to everyone. Cheers, Billy
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Going back to the complexity I think PG needs to look at the help they provide as part of the program. There are tons of videos and articles on the web site but there isn't a really good video series of how to build up a song using the main features. Agree. Personally I've found Henry Clarke's YouTube channel more helpful in that aspect. They'll most or all be the pre-2026 GUI of course. They don't suit everyone,but do suit many.
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Thank you all. My hobby is music ethnology: it's interesting how musical influences have been devopled and spread in the world: like yodeling from Switzerland, accordions from Germany, fiddle tunes from Ireland and Scotland via the Appalacies and conjuntos of Mexico melted into tex mex, country and western and western swing. My teen years were in the sixties, so I grew up with the British blues revival from pop and rock to jazz and world music. I have had a periods of digging some genre deeply for awhile and then moving to another: like I had a Hawaiian period trying to learn to play lap steel, Celtic period playing melodies with tenor banjo and mandolin, New Orleans jazz with tenor banjo and so on. I'm very pleased to share with you all the knowledge I have gathered.
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Mario - I'm delighted you liked my blues tune, thanks very much for listening & super comments!! The blues to me sits deeply in our psyche and feels so profound - I wish my fingers would allow me to spend more time playing blues on my 1939 Supertone parlor, sadly the pain gets in the way so I'm trying a bit of slide instead! Hope you had a good Christmas, wishing you all the very best in 2026! Carl
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This method didn't work for me but setting the path in the Window menu did after updating. Using the install manager once I changed the path it wanted to reinstall everything. Thanks for you help. I am marking this as solved. Yes, I was going to mention that plus the fact that you can’t download the Audiophile samples but I was in a hurry. Glad you got it taken care of.
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This method didn't work for me but setting the path in the Window menu did after updating. Using the install manager once I changed the path it wanted to reinstall everything. Thanks for you help. I am marking this as solved.
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