Wow Herb, those points you posted are so spot on, in my opinion!

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Someone said that bad songwriters have many good ideas.
But they try to put too many ideas into the song and it becomes difficult to know when it's finished.
OR they have so many good parts, they can't decide which ones to keep.


I would be curious who that someone is. In my experience it's not an over abundance of good ideas. It's that they maybe have one "ok" idea, that they don't make an effort into developing it into something better. It's a huge reason why people collaborate. To bring in MORE ideas, and different ideas/perspectives. Check out the user showcase for some EXCELLENT examples of people who can write on their own; but still choose to write with others as well.

Commercial or not, you really need to have more than one good idea in a song. Lyrical, music, production choices...many things.

I've heard some non-commercial songs that have very little "production" by choice. That is still production. It has everything (but nothing more) than is needed to support the strong ideas of the other elements. MANY great ideas that are combined in what would appear to be a simple way. Simple doesn't mean easy. It's a craft.

So personally, I'm not sold on armature song writers suffer from too many good ideas. I can't stress enough that that is just my opinion.


Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.