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babymusic #850414 04/25/25 07:52 AM
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Coming in Scaler 3.1 May 14 2025, Scaler 3 Support

... some features confirmed for Scaler 3.1 Include:
Main Track Live Sync - Syncs Main track across instances and DAWs
Batch User Chord Set Import - Ability to import several XML files at once and choose destination folder
Custom VST Folder Paths
Play Bar in MIDI Editor
Drag and Drop MIDI / Audio files
Standalone ASIO Support

Well it has been a difficult launch to say the least. Very similar to BIAB in December each year. But the developers are digging in to address the reported issues. Still can't drop and drag chords between BIAB and Scaler, but Scaler is enhancing this feature in 3.1. And, I can report that midi chords drop and drag between Scaler and the BIAB VST is working. Standalone should have never been release without ASIO, but they will now have that fixed.

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Originally Posted by DrDan
Coming in Scaler 3.1 May 14 2025, Scaler 3 Support

... some features confirmed for Scaler 3.1 Include:
Main Track Live Sync - Syncs Main track across instances and DAWs
Batch User Chord Set Import - Ability to import several XML files at once and choose destination folder
Custom VST Folder Paths
Play Bar in MIDI Editor
Drag and Drop MIDI / Audio files
Standalone ASIO Support

Well, it has been a difficult launch to say the least. Very similar to BIAB in December each year. But the developers are digging in to address the reported issues. Still can't drop and drag chords between BIAB and Scaler, but Scaler is enhancing this feature in 3.1. And I can report that midi chords drop and drag between Scaler and the BIAB VST is working. Standalone should have never been release without ASIO, but they will now have that fixed.
Not to mention they took away real-time chord recognition from the main screen. (They told me they may bring it back. I think it belongs on the new keyboard area)
I have suggested to PGM that they add it to the top area of their keyboard and make it a panel for more convenient workflow instead of hiding it two clicks deep in the windows menu.

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Jeff, I think what you are missing did reappear in beta 3.0.5 which was released to all. The chord name is now there for any chord you play on the keyboard in real time.

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Thanks Dan, I'll check it out.

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Is it true you cannot drag chord progressions into BIAB?
I cannot seem to get it to work.
Seem like a big miss by both companies if true.


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Best I can confirm, you are correct. But it is even a little worse. As of the current beta 1.0.5, S3 can no longer drag and drop the Scaler Chord progression - with Chord Markers, into Reaper. S2 had a feature option called "insert midi markers", which is currently not in S3. But S3 b1.0.6 is due out today!. So Scaler is changing a lot at this time and I am hopeful. So for right now with 1.0.5, while you can drag and drop Scaler Chord progressions into the chord chart of BIAB-VST3, you can not do the same in BIAB. Instead, in BIAB it will treat the chord progression as a midi file so that will be inserted it on whatever individual track you designate, but that does not place the Chords on the chord sheet in BIAB for all the tracks to use. I am afraid it remains a little messy.

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Thanks that was the behavior I saw.

The reason I mentioned both companies not paying attention was PGM does not seem to be supporting a common ability in many plug-ins to drop chords.
Most Daws now can make this a one step procedure.

PGM should be updating BIAB to see that the file is nothing more than MIDI block chords and then just auto convert the block chords to chord names and add or update at the point of the cursor with no pop up importing a midi file.
Same as BIAB plugin.

This is a modern expectation.
I guess I need to add it to the UI improvement thread since they’re probably not reading this.


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