New BIAB user, new forumer, first post! I am writing a first song in BIAB and finding my way trought it... Not too bad at all, even with the quirps!
OK I found how to produce a ralentendo by changing the BPM value of the bars (F5 function key) But I am not sure how to WRIGHT it on the lead sheet. That's not major I guess but it falls in the 'would be nice category'.
The one thing that stump me though is how I can make an appogiatura ( a dot with a half-circle over it that indicates to let a chord resonate for the rest of the bar, where everyone stops playing). Now THAT is sorely missing for me. And it is not the same as putting a rest, because that will cut the sound. I did RTFM and search the forum, but it produced no results. Perhaps there is another key word I should use ( my mother tongue is French) Any idea anyone?
The one thing that stump me though is how I can make an appogiatura ( a dot with a half-circle over it that indicates to let a chord resonate for the rest of the bar, where everyone stops playing). Now THAT is sorely missing for me. Perhaps there is another key word I should use ( my mother tongue is French) Any idea anyone? Thanks, luc
When in BIAB see the menu bar. Click help/how to. At top left, below the menu bar click on the index tab. In the search bar type in Shots/Holds/Pushes
That may help with your inquiry above.
(A chord can be specified as a Held Chord by adding three periods after the chord. image\IMG02780.gif indicates a C chord that is a Held Chord.)
I think the sign you are referring to is called a fermata (or 'pause' in English). The appoggiatura has a different function and is a way of notating non-harmonic tones. Appoggiaturas were commonly used in Mozart's day.
A fermata is added to a note and it means to lengthen or hold the note as long as one feels that it is musically justified. (See the image at the end of this post and the sign over the note 'A' on the right of the image.)
BIAB does not have this sign in it's notation repertoire. If you want this, try using MuseScore. It's an excellent freeware notation program. BIAB's notation is designed for quick and easy leadsheets and it does this very well. It is not comprehensive music notation software. (The marking could easily be added using a black pen to a BIAB printout.)
To play the effect of a fermata, use a 'Hold' chord as recommended by chulaivet1966 above and (possibly) reduce the tempo for that particular bar to obtain a 'pause' feeling. If you do change the tempo, you will need to use F5 to reset the tempo in the following bar.
They are still used today. Over on this side of the pond we call them grace notes.
Hi Mario,
Good to see you!
That's interesting. Over here, it's a bit different. We distinguish between the two terms 'appoggiatura' (a leaning note) and 'acciaccatura' (a crushed note).
While both are written as grace notes, the single acciaccatura is an eighth note with an angled line through its stem and the appoggiatura is a quarter note. The appoggiatura is a non-harmonic melodic tone and usually takes half the time-value of the note it resolves by step to. The acciaccatura, on the other hand, is played blindingly fast into the note it resolves to. The image below better shows what I'm trying to explain.
Hello Chu, I experimented a bit with this feature (a chord followed by 1 dot...2dots... etc). It kind of work but in the little tune I am working on, which is a finger picking country waltz, the appogiatura sound leans a bit too much to the noise of a guitar rack crashing down in a music store! I guess I am expecting a bit too much from the software, but still, it is is quite amazing what one's could achieve with the system! It's been less than a week I have BIAB and I am at the discovery stage and so far I am flabergasted!
Now, any suggestion as how to make a pickup bar? By this I mean forcing the system to sart on the 3 of the first 3/4 measure?
Thank you Noel and chulaivet. while waiting for the forum reactions, I did experiment a bit with the answer chulaivet describeb. It sorta works... I tried a few things on my own, including reducing the tempo for that bar, but it did not sound natural, Still, I have a lot of fun with the software and to me it is a genius way to make music in a basement! Thanks noel for the link to musescore. I will look into that when my excitement with BIAB wanes a little! I did not expect, or intent to use BIAB for chart writing, but when using BIAB within it's intended purpose, it is very good!
Hello MarioD, I don,tknow you but we have something in common already! I just love your signoff on your posts: ''I'm a wooden spoon, lead paint, no car seat, no seat belt, no bike helmet survivor" I can declare here : "so am I!"
We were made tough! in my case 64 years ago comes next sunday! BIAB was my birthday gift from me, to me, with love!
Thank you Noel and chulaivet.,,,while waiting for the forum reactions, I did experiment a bit with the answer chulaivet describeb. It sorta works... I did not expect, or intent to use BIAB for chart writing, but when using BIAB within it's intended purpose, it is very good!Thank you, Luc
I'm still a new kid myself and have merely scratched the surface of the program's capabilities.
I've only used the chord hold option a couple of times and it worked as well as I'd expected without any strange sound or artifacts.
I equate BIAB with the Marianas Trench. So...gird thy loins for the long haul in discovering the depth of this excellent program and what it can provide/accomplish for the inquiring musical mind.
I presume you have chosen dedicated a DAW software program? Unless, you're just going to use Real Band for the time being.
//I presume you have chosen dedicated a DAW software program? Unless, you're just going to use Real Band for the time being.//
I always been a musician, and a sound engineer for the last 4 decades! My daw of choice is not even a DAW, or it is but not in the usual sense I guess. I use Harrisson Mixbus-32C which is a perfect mimic of the console I learned on in the 70's (Marko studio in Momntreal, it was a great place, still exist!) I still do sound recording and for that I use a rack based around an RME Fireface UFX and 16 channels of preamps by RME (Octamix 1) I haven't tried as of yet to export tracks to Mixbus
//I always been a musician, and a sound engineer for the last 4 decades! I haven't tried as of yet to export tracks to Mixbus
Great....I didn't know your music background....sounds extensive. I think there are many fossils here still chugging along.
I've read of Mixbus and the reviews were favorable.
Side bar... IE: guitar....even if I only like a few aspects of a lead guitar track I will still export to audio then 'freeze' the tracks. I had (6) lead guitar tracks to choose from, cut/paste, move around and arrange on my last song....then the fun begins.
Now, any suggestion as how to make a pickup bar? By this I mean forcing the system to sart on the 3 of the first 3/4 measure?
Luc, are you meaning that you want the chords and bass to play on beat 3 of the pickup bar?
If so, try using bar 1 as the pickup bar. The general principle is to rest instruments for beats 1 and 2 and then enter a chord on beat 3. The image below shows how to accomplish this.
The 'C.d' tells all instruments to rest except the drums. Everything then plays with the G7 chord (beat 3) and then changes to the C chord (beat 1, bar 2).
In the Windows version of BIAB.... Chord settings are obtained by right-click on a blank space on the chord sheet and selecting 'Chord Settings' from the pop-up menu. The keyboard shortcut is ALT+F5. One could also add a part marker on bar 2 and force a drum fill in bar 1.
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