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Is that finally possible in 2012, without resorting to complicated workarounds? It occurs in music, seems like by now BIAB should be able to do that. IT should work for triplets as well, including quarter note triplets.



the thought occurs to me that the reason this same question keeps getting asked is because people insist on regarding the panels where chords are entered as though they were measures... but they're not!

Sure, in many songs the structure works out that way, but the logic of considering those panels as measures breaks down when you need more than 4 chords in a measure (but can't fit more than 4 chords in a panel)

It is the users responsibility to understand the software, not the manufacturer's responsibility to accommodate user misconceptions. If you consider each panel to be nothing more than a 4 chord grid (NOT a measure) then it starts to make sense.

If you need more than 4 chords per measure then you need more than 1 panel per measure, simple as that.


As stated many times before, the ability to use more than 4 chords per measure is a function of the style, not of the program. Many people have tried to use an inappropriate style in a song that requires more than 1 chord panel per measure, and they didn't get the results they wanted.... but that's not PGMusic's fault, any more than it would be their fault if somebody tried to use an inappropriate style in any other situation!

Maybe we are going about this the wrong way... there are probably a handful of songs that people struggle to recreate in BIAB because they require more than 4 chords per mesure. Maybe if we identify those songs and provide expanded styles that work for those songs, this poor dead horse could stop beng beaten. There are already many such styles in the style picker. Start by searching for the name of the song you are trying to duplicate... you may be surprised to find a style made for that song

If its an original song, you may need to make an original style if you can't find one that's close enough... and the ability to do that has already been provided.

I guess the ultimate question is: how much of the creative process is the user's responsibilty, and how much is PGMusic's responsibility? The demands one makes on the software are directly related to how one answers that question.



Again, and it would seem that I'm in a minority of one on this, this is not all about songs with eight chords. It's about replicating accompaniment patterns that have chordal movement within an eighth note time base.

Okay, you can make a style that would do it, or use the melody harmony feature to harmonize the top note of the pattern input as a 'melody' then reimport that as a style. But you'd still end up with a set riff as a style pattern with no ability to alter its changes within that riff for other songs/compositions except in the stylemaker.

This might all sound picky to some but for me thinking in eighth notes and defining the rhythmic character of your comping patterns, using just the chord sheet and without the use of the 'style' as such, puts the creative responsibility back into the users hands not the program's. You're forced to think about comping in a way that suits your own aims for the tune.

The chord panel problem is admittedly an issue that could maybe be addressed by an expansion of one bar into two for these purposes, and only as an 'opt-in' function.

The only other program that has unlimited input of chords per measure is Jammer but the issue of being able to view the chords persists unless you alter the view capability. Without holds and shots which that program lacks, its still down to the style riff whether they actually play so it's a bit of a non event.

But then its not so much a matter of viewing the chords so much as hearing them. These eighth note chords are 'passing' or 'lead-in' chords resolving to a chord of longer duration.

Or as was suggested, you could just play it yourself, which isn't an answer in my book when we are talking about improving an auto accompaniment program.

Regards


Alan