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Matt, I'm sorry I didn't read carefully enough....duh.  I have a few questions if you don't mind... Does it use a lot of cpu? ram? Any specific practical hassles dislikes when using it??? Have you tried it with different headphones? Thank you so much.  Josie
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No, no, no and yes. The emulations made more of a difference in sound than my different headphones. However, I choose from headphones that do not color the sound as much as others might.
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Mine arrived. Tried all day yesterday to get it to work...with / without the Tascam... NO sound was ever passed to the unit/drivers. Reinstalled drivers etc.... nada. It's going back today.
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Josie, some better answers to your questions from the Focusrite FAQ:
Which headphones was VRM designed to work with?
We used the Sennheiser HD 280/HD 650, Beyerdynamic DT 100, Beyerdynamic 770 and the PROline 650s to test VRM with, though during development the concept was tested on a wide variety of headphones of different designs (e.g. open and closed) and of varying cost and quality. Obviously the better the headphones in terms of frequency response, the more the individual speaker's qualities will be discernible. However, the VRM system was not designed with one specific model of headphones in mind.
When considering headphone impedance, the general principle is that higher impedance headphones typically have a flatter frequency response, however they require more power from the headphone amplifier to provide the same output level as headphones with a lower impedance. Having said this, the VRM Box's headphone amplifier should be powerful enough to drive higher impedance headphones at a high enough level for most purposes. 2011-03-24 Views: 2721
How does the VRM Box work with my existing audio interface?
1. Using the USB cable provided, connect the VRM Box to the USB port of your computer 2. Connect the S/PDIF output on your audio interface into the VRM Box S/PDIF input 3. In your audio interface’s control panel, ensure that audio is sent to the S/PDIF output of your audio interface 4. With the volume control turned down, connect your headphones to VRM Box 5. Open the VRM software, check the icon in the bottom right corner of the VRM software that the VRM Box has locked to the S/PDIF signal 6. Start playing audio from your DAW software or any media player 7. Turn up the volume control on the VRM Box until you have the required level in your headphones 2011-01-12 Views: 4598
What latency is added to the audio by VRM processing?
The VRM Box processing takes place at a driver level on your computer. This process incurs a 64 sample latency (about 1ms). The VRM processing also uses a certain amount of CPU resources. The VRM Box driver will also add additional latency. This latency will depend on how you use the VRM Box:
When using the VRM Box as your audio interface in your DAW, the latency you experience will be dependant on the audio buffer size you set in your DAW, and in most DAWs the actual latency figure is displayed in the preferences. If the audio buffer size is set to less than 64 samples, then the VRM processing does not have enough time to do the processing and no audio will pass. VRM CPU requirements are much higher when the audio buffer size is set too low, so it is recommended that a buffer size of 512 samples (Mac) or 10ms (Windows) should give the best starting point.
When using the S/PDIF input (receiving audio from another audio interface), the latency figure will be dependant on the audio buffer size you set in your DAW for that interface, PLUS additional latency from the VRM Box. In this case, there will be latency incurred from the transfer of S/PDIF audio sent from the VRM Box via USB using the VRM audio driver, through the VRM processing, then back to the VRM Box. The total round trip latency is likely to be in the region of 20ms (depending on computer specs) 2011-01-12 Views: 2639
Does the VRM box have DSP or does it use my host processor?
The VRM box uses the processing power of your host CPU to process the VRM. To see how much of your CPU the the VRM Daemon is using, you should check the 'Activity Monitor' on your computer. 2011-01-12 Views: 2227
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Mine arrived. Tried all day yesterday to get it to work...with / without the Tascam... NO sound was ever passed to the unit/drivers. Reinstalled drivers etc.... nada. It's going back today.
That sucks! Too bad... thanks for the update.
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Thanks Matt. I went to their site the other day. Then did some googling too. That's why I was asking you for your personal experience with it.  Mitch, Are you getting a replacement? That's really sad it didn't work at all. Josie
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Well, interestingly, I'm having trouble, too.
I ran it on a Windows 7 Home 32-bit machine and it was fine. Now, in response to the renewed interest by this thread, I moved it to my production machine that runs on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, and it's not working. Hmmm.
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Yep Win 7 64 bit here... not a peep outta the thing...and it wreaked havoc with my mouse also.
NO replacement...
Now looking into 5" monitors w/ sub. My mixes are turning out fine using the new Sony MDR-7520 phones... so I'll bite the bullet and look at monitors... Dynaudio would be my 1st choice as I've had them and know their sound.
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I have the VRM for a few months now. But I just started using it. I just posted a song in the showcase that I mixed with it - All Alone. I did most of the mix with it, and gave a final listen on my near field monitors with only a few minor adjustments required.
I really like the VRM. It is not "just an eq". Of course, I would not recommend not using speakers, but for late night mixing, this is a godsend. What I try to do is get the mix to sound as good as possible on all the emulated speakers in the VRM. Takes a little doing.
I don't know what the problem is with yours, Mitch. Hopefully Focusrite will get it sorted out for you. They make good stuff. I've been using the Saffire 6 USB for a couple years now.
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Steve are you using yours with a Windows 7 x 64bit PC ? I was really looking forward to it but it just did not work.
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Mitch, I have a Macbook that is Bootcamped. I use Mac OS X Lion, DAW is Logic Pro for actual recording. For BIAB, I run Bootcamp drive, Windows 7 Pro x32bit PC. No problems with either.
What DAW are you using? If you have the Audio Buffer set too low, that could be the cause for no sound passing through the VRM.
Steve Young Music"In order to compose, all you need to do is remember a tune that nobody else has thought of." - Robert Schumann
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Mitch, I just noticed that you said the VRM caused problems with your mouse. I overlooked that earlier.  Obviously you had faulty device or usb cable or something that caused a conflict. Sorry you couldn't get it to work! BTW, I'm looking forward to hearing more music from you! Steve
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Steve, maybe I got a faulty unit ? But I'm too old to fuss with stuff that doesn't work. I'm 'over it' and moving on without VRM.
I'm getting back in to fingerstyle playing after learning it, then moving on. Have to 'relearn' and get some calluses back !
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