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Hi
I am a singer and want to use BIAB to produce backing tapes of well known songs from the 50's to the 80's. Does it come with a performance license. Does that advice change if I use real tracks. Can I use it on YouTube. I currently use BIAB 2010 and will upgrade to 2014 depending on answers to this. Otherwise I'll need to get professional backing tapes done(that will cost loads and I'm just starting).
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The Jay
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Hi
I am a singer and want to use BIAB to produce backing tapes of well known songs from the 50's to the 80's. Does it come with a performance license. Does that advice change if I use real tracks. Can I use it on YouTube. I currently use BIAB 2010 and will upgrade to 2014 depending on answers to this. Otherwise I'll need to get professional backing tapes done(that will cost loads and I'm just starting).
Thanks
The Jay Hi The Jay. Yes, you can purchase a license to perform the BIAB songs. It's good for Real Tracks as well. Just send a money order for $500 to my email account. You can PM me for that. Regards, Bob
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Funny!
I don't think you need a licence after you bought the software.
Am I right?
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Band In A Box is a tool. You can use it to produce new songs or covers. But you would still need to pay for a license if you were producing covers. However, my understanding is most establishments already pay a license to cover that usage.
Oh and just ignore 90 dB! He is always kidding around when it comes to licensing! The actual fee is $400 and you are supposed to send it to me.
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You can create any song you want to royalty free from BIAB. If you perform covers out in public then the venue is responsible for the licensing fees.
If you post it on youtube (or for streaming elsewhere), you are responsible for the licensing costs. But I would guess that most folks don't pay attention to all that until they are contacted by ascap, bmi or someone else.
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Funny!
I don't think you need a licence after you bought the software.
Am I right? Actually Paul, since you're in Merry Old, that would be a SESAC license. That will cost you 500£. Just PM me for the email address. Don't listen to those other people. They are just trying to stifle my side business. Regards, Bob
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You bought a license to use BB & RB and that covers the recordings you make as well as live performances....
If you are playing covers, those performance royalties are paid generally by the venue and have no bearing on the tracks you use as backing.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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ten foot pole <- -> me
They do not touch.
That said, what you create with RB/BB Realtracks is yours.
But recording cover songs and publishing them (like on youtube) .. see above. Whole different realm and set of rules.
Royalties are 'Covered by the venue'
Is YouTube a venue? Do they pay royalties? (I dunno)
That's where the line would get scary for me.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Royalties are 'Covered by the venue'
I was referring to most nightclubs. If you post covers online, you really, really, really need to get the license from the Harry Fox Agency to have yourself covered. Nothing sucks like finding out that the publisher/record company/artist is going after you and plans to make you an example.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Oh and just ignore 90 dB! He is always kidding around when it comes to licensing! The actual fee is $400 and you are supposed to send it to me.
Man, you can tell we're all musicians! As soon as money got mentioned, we started undercutting the price to get the gig!  regarding online posts of cover songs: yeah, you are taking a chance. One school of thought is that your post is one grain of sand on a very large beach. Chance of being outed is pretty small. Even if you do get discovered, chances are that you'd get a cease and desist letter as a warning before any legal action was taken. Having said that, here's the other school of thought: most (if not all) media upload sites require you to agree to their terms of service before you can join. Invariably those terms include language which forces the applicant to accept full legal responsibility for any copyright infringement. This agreement negates the need for a cease and desist order, because in it you agree to a knowledge of the consequences and you explicitly accept responsibity for your willful and informed actions as well as any ramifications. Whoah horse! So, whereas in the past it would have been economically unfeasible to prosecute individual grains of sand, now these agreements could provide a database of enough violators to justify the cost of a class action suit. I'm sort of waiting by the sidelines for that to happen. Money is involved, so it WILL happen eventually. Welllll maybe not... music industry types are nice people, and they'd NEVER take money from the average nobody... or would they? (Your call.)
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