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Briefly, who here has experienced this, and how did it work? Somewhere I lost mine, and I "can't find my way home."
Music has been a sustaining force since I took up guitar at 13. It was a source of inspiration, hope, and comfort until… something happened.
Fifteen years ago I went through a catastrophic divorce. Since then I have moved thirteen times. During that time my gear has been in storage, scattered, some of it stolen. I remarried two years ago and am in a loving, supportive relationship. (Some of you may recall that she was a tenor saxophonist.) I have replaced or upgraded the gear that went walkabout. I have a music room and everything I need to produce anything I have ever envisioned, and the time to do it.
I haven't picked up a guitar in months. I sit at my powerful, custom-built DAW and play solitaire. Something is missing, and I don't know how to get it back.
Any insight will be deeply appreciated.
"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
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Maybe just get back on the horse and ride? Find a kindred spirit and put an acoustic duo together. Play some open mics. There are a ton in your area. http://openmikes.org/near/30144 Nothing gets the juices flowing like applause.  Regards, Bob
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Ryszard, I have been in same situation as you contless times, having got first guitar around same age, playing a while, and then leaving it for long periods without playing atall. Here are a few things that have helped me get back into the guitar a few months ago. 1 As you know getting the finger tips hardened up again is a very frustrating business and can really put you off, I found this helped a lot. What I did was on my acoustic put a capo on second or third fret and practice the basic chords there rather than just starting playing chords at first fret again, somehow for me it was more comfortable doing so,not as high an action, and not as uncomfortable on left arm reach, less muscles to use in other words.If you use barree chords move further up the neck as well, still having capo on second or third fret, just mess around on any scales you happen to know, just enjoying the moment, not really doing any new stuff. 2 just strum for the hell of it, trying to make up different strum patterns say like on the upbeat. Try refreshing all the chords you know, still with that capo at second or third fret. 3 Make sure that guitar is handy to reach to, wherever you are, have it near you so that eventually you just reach for it without thinking or even just playing a bit while watching tv, better still have one in each room. After a few months or so, your fingers tips will be really toughened up again, and you will feel more comfortable playing and the feel of the guitar. Around this time I started to remove the capo and started to feel more comfortable playing chords at first fret. After a few months I started to feel more at home playing again, but still some days I pick up guitar and feel I don't play as well as I did the previous day, on and off days in other words. Just a few things I found helpful, hope you get things going at your end again. As I know you love electronic stuff and Reason fire that program up again Richard. Saying all the above, there are indeed times I still need to get motivated myself so don't feel too bad about games etc, all for us to enjoy Good luck.  Musiclover
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FWIW I've found that making music is not a solo experience.
For me, being part of an ensemble is a huge encouragement. I play in several groups ranging on size from 6 to in excess of 25. They each have their own appeal but they all contribute to joy in making music.
For me, playing solo is like clapping with one hand: unproductive.
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For now, just play. There's something about simply spending one on one time with a well tuned guitar. Start with new strings on the guitar. New strings always sound good. Tune up, strum a chord, and just listen to the beauty of the sound... the chords.... the notes.... the resonance of the guitar..... it's not hard to fall back in love with that once you have known it and loved it in the past. I think the biggest thing is fear and the high expectations we put on ourselves. Forget all that... fall in love again. Just play. Enjoy the moment, the sound, the feeling, the smell of the guitar, the beauty of the music. Don't worry about the DAW or writing or recording.... just play the guitar. As you play, you will naturally want to write, and once you have written, then turn on the DAW to record. But for now.... just play. Just play. Make a post-it note that says NO GAMES and put it on the monitor. Then abide by it. Play games on any other computer but not the DAW. The DAW computer is for music that you listen to, write, and record. Once you get some inspiration and are ready to get to work....Here's how I do things when it comes to getting ideas and playing music. I grab my acoustic guitar... tune it up, and open Band In A Box. I open a new project and select a style.... and a key other than the default "C". Sometimes I do keep the same key. Vary the style and the tempo and the key as needed. I simply hit PLAY and start strumming. Normally something hits me and I start entering the chords as I hear them in my head. At the very least, this is a fun exercise in getting a new idea out.... and sometimes it goes nowhere and I delete it. Quite often I will start over again and go in a different direction. When things come together the right way, not only do the music and chords come easily, but something will trigger an idea and the words flow as well, and I have the makings of a new song. This is the "waiting on a magic moment of inspiration" method. More often than not, I will write with intention. This is where I am working actively on something that has occurred to me previously and I'm now making it happen. I write most of my music in this way. I find, that when I have "been away" from music for a time..... to recharge my batteries or just because I was in a rut and bored with it, when I do come back to play, I have lots of new and exciting ideas and a real desire to hear the beauty of the music and the instruments. Just writing this to you has made me realize that I need to change the strings on my Taylor acoustic today. So very likely, once I get that done, I will have a "love fest" with the Taylor and who knows what will come of that joyous moment. Force yourself to pick up the guitar and in short order it will not be a forced situation. But for now.... Just play. EDIT: I remarried two years ago and am in a loving, supportive relationship. (Some of you may recall that she was a tenor saxophonist.) and yes, there is a LOT to be said for finding someone else, a musician, who wants to play, and have a very informal jam session.
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Same here Ryszard. I have a ton of gear and multiple places to set up a nice studio. Every so often I get to thinking maybe a new piece of gear will spur my motivation. Just recently I sprung for a Roland Integra 7 to expand my already lack of talent further and access some of Biab's great capabilities in that area as well as make use of the thousands of midi files I've collected over the years. Set it up one night, played with it a bit through the computer with BB,RB and Studio One2. Today it is back in the box it was shipped in and out in the garage with everything else. Last time it was an Alesis Keyboard, midi controller. It's never been taken out of the box. They sit side by side boxed up. Before that, an Ibanez guitar. There's even a before that, but I've made my point...
I know that time, gear, location and a supportive 2nd wife (I have one too) are not at the root of my apathy. My mediocre writing and performing talent aren't the root of my apathy either, but they are certainly the anchors.
I think Bob's assessment fits the closest for me, no kindred spirit to jam, collaborate and bring in fresh ideas and motivation.
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Some excellent advice has already been given so I will not repeat them but add this, do not expect to play like you did many years ago. I started guitar at 14 and never put it down. But guitar was my ad-vocation not my main job and there were periods of time that I didn't practice much, my wedding band played pretty much the same songs for about 20 years. So now that I am a lot older and with arthritic hands I do not play anywhere as good as I used to play.
Now when I am in a rut or writer's block I punch a few chords in BiaB and have BiaB generate a melody. Although it never generates the perfect song I always find phrases here and there that become my main themes.
But the main thing is have fun. Do not make this a chore, a must to do by next Friday thing. Strum and enjoy what you are playing regardless of how long it takes. Google/bing songs that you would like to play. Search song title chords and you will find chord progressions and words for just about any song that you have ever heard.
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First, I think A LOT of musicians have this happen. I don't believe there is a little blue pill that can help with this one either!  There has been some really great advice that has been given already. So, I was deciding weather or not to say anything. I think Herb/Guitarhacker has something to REALLY consider! You went from , at an early age, being passionate about an instrument, which is very organic to... "My primary musical instrument is the personal computer." Maybe reconnect to what got you started in the first place. There is a lot to be said of the child-like feeling you get. Try jamming, or playing along with some songs from that time of your life for the soul(purposely worded that way) reason of "remembering." For the record, I can totally relate to this. I was at a point in my life of having to make a decision to full out tour or not. I think there are plenty of people that have those opportunities. A friend I met at college and I had to road trip 2 hours each way to play on weekends in a band together on top of being in the school's music program. We were going for it. I walked away as I got to know the industry more. He tours with a band that has had 6 #1 hits in the last 5 years and has sold well over 16 million albums. How's that for contrast? Where is this going? When I walked away, I walked away from drumming for the most part. It was what I had built my world around since age 13. Done. There are times I am asked to play, and I am flattered, but it's not for me. It's not wasted time, it's not a bad memory, but it's not me anymore either. That's weird to have happen, AND it can zap your inspiration! MY SOLUTION was I still surround myself with exceptional players. Yes, I write jingles, and they are "sort of songs." The bigger reason is, it gives me amazing access to a network of people that don't see me as competition, or a threat in any way. They see me as a possible source of supplementing income for their families. From there, friendships have been formed! Here is my point (a long time in the making, but I wanted you to know the thinking behind it), being around these people inspires me like I am a kid! It sparks something in me! You have some great opportunities right here to re-invent your inspiration. The big thing for me with drumming was, I first had to answer the question of "Do I even want this?" by answering "no" to that hard question, opened the door to new inspiration in music for me. Let me know if you have ANY questions, or need anything help from me. I know you to be a GREAT guy, and I'm glad you opened up about this here!
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What a gift you have given me by taking the time to write these thoughtful responses. Thank you for what you have given me so far. I read everything, and two things in particular resonated.
First was the acoustic duo. I began on acoustic and was inspired by the folk-rock music of the mid to late 1960s. Two people who sing and play together make some of the most beautiful and appealing sounds I know. Lately I have been more electric and electronic, and I haven't played my acoustic in a very long time. I have fresh set of D'Addario phosphor-bronze strings on the coffee table. It's time I put them on and find someone local to jam with.
The other is sound. I am at least as much in love with the vibrations themselves as I am with organizing them into music. I remember placing my ear on the upper bout if my acoustic, hitting a single note, and listening until it died out. Later, when I got my first electric guitar and amp, I would sit in the dark playing with notes and tone and reverb. I spent as much time getting sound effects out of my analog synth as I did using it as a musical instrument.
Thank you all for reminding me where this all started. You have laid out clear, simple steps that I can easily follow. This is wonderful.
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I have a life long friend I've mentioned here before.
He is also a musician.
When he sees someone he knows (like me) getting into a funk like that, his first instinct is to initiate a spontaneous jam slot. Just invite some guys over, see who shows up and jam (of course he will mention it more than a few times to the one person he knows needs it .. just to make sure they show up).
Before you know it we are all trying to write some new 'thing' to jam to .. and the creative juices start flowing.
Go jam for the 'fun of it', and the inspiration will likely follow.
/seems silly simple, but quite often works
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Maybe just get back on the horse and ride? Find a kindred spirit and put an acoustic duo together. Play some open mics. There are a ton in your area. http://openmikes.org/near/30144 Nothing gets the juices flowing like applause. Regards, Bob Richard as I read your post, I'm thinking - this is a guy that needs to perform again. See Bob's post, and I gotta throw 100% support behind this. Another option is to lend your skills to a local church that is looking for band members. Can be a tough crowd however, unfortunately. -Scott
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Hi Richard. This may not help as you are much more advanced than I but for what it's worth.
Doing Pat Pattison's free online course gave me focus (I need a reason to do anything) some connection with others and some interesting projects to do and I ended up with a few songs i liked, material to perform and the basis for a CD. Just get into a project. The enthusiasm will build. Cheers.
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rharv—"Jam for the fun of it…" I know, but my memory sucks. I NEED these reminders.
RSN—Same to you. I am never so alive as when I play in front of people. I miss it terribly. I have played in churches, but it has been 20 years. I have to be wary because I have a really bad tendency to overcommit. I have also worked third shift for the last five years, but I quit that in February. It's a whole new world.
Thank you all so, so much. I KNOW this stuff, but I have let it go for so long. Things are much more complex than I have tried to describe here, but I think I nailed the essence. Your collective remarks are spot on.
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Wonderful advice from many. I hope you don't mind if I add my little bit to the conversation.
If you close your eyes and see with your mind's eyes, what makes you grin when you think about music? The friendships, the high from nailing a riff, the feeling when you coax a special sound from the instrument, performing, jamming until a song is perfect, recording?
There are a lot of different facets to music and you may find most views unappealing but could do one thing all day. That's what you need to find. The one thing you could do all day that will put a grin on your face.
In addition, it helps when you can share your passion with someone that is as passionate as you. Find some musical activity your wife and you can share. It maybe going out and hearing other musicians, practicing together or performing together but you will enjoy music much more when you're sharing it.
By-the-way, John Lennon lost the muse for a few years before regaining his love for a song.
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Rich, you posted while I was writing, so I just saw this. Good idea! Thanks.
I haven't noticed you around in a while, but that could very well be just me. Hope you're well, friend.
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Jim, all input is welcome. I sm very grateful for your remarks. I think I've found my hot buttons.
The deal with my wife is problematic. She gave away her instrument many years ago and replacing it is out of the question. As my wedding present to her, I got a Yamaha WX-5 electronic wind controller along with a Yamaha synth module which was not only made for the purpose, but has a custom chip for added expression and realism.
Alas, the two years of our marriage have been eventful. In that time she has had carpal tunnel surgery on both sides as well as breaking her right wrist after that. Her job is very demanding and she often has to work six days a week. On top of all that, the Yamaha doesn't use sax fingering; it is its own thing entirely. I mean to set her up with a copy of BIAB on her PC so she can work at her convenience, but she needs R&R first and foremost. I am semi-retired, but she has a while yet. I hope something works out before then.
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I got a Yamaha WX-5 electronic wind controller along with a Yamaha synth module which was not only made for the purpose, but has a custom chip for added expression and realism.
..... the Yamaha doesn't use sax fingering; it is its own thing entirely. I mean to set her up with a copy of BIAB on her PC so she can work at her convenience, but she needs R&R first and foremost. I am semi-retired, but she has a while yet. I hope something works out before then. The Akai EWI-USB wind controller has a sax fingering mode and it will work with your module if your module has a MIDI in. You might want to look into it. Your wife is in our prayers.
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to all the great advice i would add celebrate the small steps
i have IGS instant gratification syndrome and quite often do not give myself credit for the small steps it takes to achieve the larger goad
when that happens i give up
getting back on the horse is a well practice skill for me
over time appreciating the small steps will help you get to the larger goal
also +1 for the open mics
almost forgot how are those D'Addario phosphor-bronze strings sounding
good luck
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For me 'life' gets in the way. Whether it be outdoor building projects, refurbishing rooms in the house, whatever excuse deters me from music. Trying to take my calendar and set myself time that "I WILL do music" tends to help.
Summer pretty took me out of music altogether with the outdoor stuff. Now that winter is setting in I'm resuming Berklee courses through Coursea to try and get back into it a little.
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Hi Richard. This may not help as you are much more advanced than I but for what it's worth.
Doing Pat Pattison's free online course gave me focus (I need a reason to do anything) some connection with others and some interesting projects to do and I ended up with a few songs i liked, material to perform and the basis for a CD. Just get into a project. The enthusiasm will build. Cheers. Richard, If you need a truly appreciative audience, pack your acoustic into your nearest Nursing Home. We/they relate well to the music of the 50s and 60s. You will find greater rewards than money really exist. What dollar-value can you place on the foot-tapping and smile of a forgotten mother or grandmother? I found many new friends from Pat Pattison's online Songwriting Course last year, many of whom still communicate regularly. Creating music, or anything worthwhile, is cyclical. You may only need a temporary diversion and the "spark" of creativity will re-blossom with renewed vigor. You are always among the first to jump in to help others and your diverse knowledge is much sought-after. Perhaps if you shift the focus and emotional energy toward helping others (the aged shut-ins) you would be well rewarded. My 2 centavos. Don
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music
Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:
BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation
Voilà, enjoy!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!
Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.
Stay up to date—get the latest update now!
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