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I bought a new USB keyboard and it plays in bBiaB, but when I try to use a VST in the thru track, it does not give any sound. Also, I tried the Midi Keyboard wizard enabled, but it does not makes any difference... The only sound I can make work is the ordinary midi patches...
Any Idea what I have overlooked ?
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Trygve,
What's the brand and model of your keyboard? If you give the details, we can look it up on the internet and get some thoughts.
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What lead (leads) do you have hooked between the two (the keyboard and the computer), and can you use the keyboard with the computer with other program(s)?
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Thanks for the answer guys ! And sorry for not giving enough info !
It's a IRig 37 PRO keyboard. I tried again today on my desktop and was able to get the VST to work by accidentally starting a song, and there it was ! Hehe, did not realize that I actually need to play a song in BiaB for the VST to give sound...
But again, the Midi wizard stil does not work after enable it ! Am I overlooking something "obvious" again ?
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I also have this keyboard. If you don't need weighted keys, it's a nice size for the desk.
It has nothing to do with VSTi; my system uses a hardware synth as MIDI Out. This is just a peculiarity of BIAB that you have to Play first.
What do you mean by "MIDI Wizard"?
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He means the PC keyboard "wizard" - it is not an external keyboard wizard. it uses the bottom two rows of a PC keyboard
"Wizard Playalong Feature
The Wizard is an intelligent play along feature that is controlled with the bottom two rows of your computer’s QWERTY keyboard or your connected MIDI keyboard. The bottom row of keys plays chord tones; the second row plays passing tones. You play any key in either row and never make a mistake! The Wizard keys are active during playback.
How To Turn The Wizard On/Off
To use this feature, press the [MIDI] toolbar button and enter a check for MIDI Keyboard Wizard Enabled."
Larry
PS - I have iRig Keys Pro (37 full size) as well. Surprisingly good keyboard (synth keyboard) action as well as being desk size friendly!
Just got a Roland A49 (came for an extra $29 with Integra 7 from Kraft music- they have some nice bundle deals!).
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Actually I didn't need yet ANOTHER keyboard (I have two 88's weighted and a 79 synth action and the iRig 37 - and I play guitar not keys!), but has a few minor "ready to directly use" with Integra7 features and they were essentially giving it away so WTH.
EDIT (it wasn't free I forgot I paid $29 extra for it - this is just two weeks ago and I already forgot - I'm really getting old!)
It plays very well also - but I truly HATE the combo "mod and pitch shift" "wheel" and I've never like the D beam controller that's on it. The mod wheel function on the A49/88 doesn't stay where you put it - it's spring loaded like the pitch "wheel."
But that aside it allows you to directly select SN on the Integra, and has a 5-Pin MIDI out connection (but you STILL have to power the keyboard over USB somehow). it's ~foot longer and ~ 1.5 inches less depth than an iRig Keys Pro.
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Oh yes, I use the PC keyboard wizard often, but haven't recently. I'll give it a try.
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@Larry; "He means the PC keyboard "wizard" - it is not an external keyboard wizard. it uses the bottom two rows of a PC keyboard"
Oh, so it works only on the PC keyboard???? That's a bit strange... I mean, they make the PC keyboard play midi and do this "miracle" and cannot let that work also for external Midi Keyboard???? Hm... Might be something for the wishlist then.... Anyway, thank's a lot for the inputs...
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Certain features in PGMusic products work only with the default synth selected, not the 'extra' drive ports. These features seem to default to the selected default hardware MIDI port 1 (and only this one).
No VSTi or DXi options.
In my experience, PC Keyboard and Animated Drum window (among others) seem to have this quirk.
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I looked further into it, and it turns out that an external Midi Keyboard can also be used, and it works for me ! This it what the Help menu says; "The Wizard is an intelligent play along feature that is controlled with the bottom two rows of your computer’s QWERTY keyboard or your connected MIDI keyboard. The bottom row of keys plays chord tones; the second row plays passing tones. You play any key in either row and never make a mistake! The Wizard keys are active during playback."
It's just that we have to enable also one more place, as the Help says; "If you also want to use the Melody Wizard on MIDI notes, go to Preferences [Transpose] and enable "Allow Melody Wizard on THRU part" in the Settings for transposing songs when loaded or "Do it Now" dialog."
But I find it a little overstated that; "You play any key in either row and never make a mistake!"
Maybe I still need to work on it, but when I played along, I heard a lot of notes that sounded way out !
And yes, I also did this; "In the Play menu, toggle Wizard uses "Smart" notes to "off" (unchecked) to have the Wizard provide you access to the chromatic scale. Toggle it "on" to have access only to the notes based on the chord/key of the song."
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Be sure you have the channel assignments correct....
Have you tried this in a DAW to see if it works there? I hear that some things don't work in BB and RB that do work properly in a DAW, regarding VST's.
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Nope, I don't have any other DAW's, so can't try... Anybody else have?
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First you did get your iRig Keyboard to function in BIAB, correct? (it was that little gotcha' "hit play (or record)" to actually allow iRig MIDI notes to be sent, by BAIB, to your selected VSTi(s)to trigger sounds) Second you really need at LEAST one other "DAW" like program - so when things seem weird or act weird in RB/BIAB you have another program to see if you can repeat issue. http://www.musictech.net/2015/10/the-5-best-freeware-daws/http://routenote.com/blog/the-10-best-free-daws-available/ Actually I think some (most) of the above are TRIAL DAW's not really free forever but... Finally, take heart you are correct: I hear quite a few BAD notes, not as many as "in-tune" notes using the PC keyboard bottom row, with a once in a while use of the second row up (passing tones), with the keyboard wizard no matter how configured but enough to make me think I'm doing something wrong. I've never had luck with the PC keyboard wizard - I remember it never seemed right to me so I have never really played with it after first attempt back in my BIAB DOS (or did that function first appear in BIAB win 3.1?)! So until playing with that function today, it's been well over 20+ years since I've even given that function a look or a try! And FORGET about using an external Keyboard for this function. If this is supposed to be for a keyboard or music novice then the function should have kept chord tones and passing tones physically separated on the keyboard - not interspersed like a REAL melody line using chord/scale/mode notes - or at least all white notes for chord tones and all black notes for passing tones or similar break down) I read the PG Help file [for others reading this: BIAB Help, Search tab, type "Wizard" and it is the second entry down: "Wizard Play along Feature"] but in practice it's not what it says nor does it function as implied, unless there is a caveat they forgot to mention (e.g., this only works for SGUs and not MGUs, or only "this or that" type song, or you can only play quarter or half notes - timing wise). Maybe this is one to report to maybe Peter or some one at PG will drop in here to BETTER explain "how to" (shouldn't be hard - only need to use the bottom row of PC keys to test or demonstrate, right?) Larry
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