Horns are one of the most difficult things for Biab to do because in the real world the horns are always an integral part of the song. The lines are specifically written to complement what else is going on. IOW, horns are very song specific. I've listened to most of the midi horn styles as well as the newer RT horn styles and none are close to fitting whatever song I happen to be working on. I'll hear some licks or phrases that could work but other parts are not close.

When I said I really like the way those horns work with Cold Duck does not mean I'm happy with what Biab did and I'm done. Not even close. What I heard was the potential to make a good horn track out of the many varied parts of that RT. I don't know if that makes sense to you or not Nigel but to me there is no way Biab can simply generate horn lines by itself and we'll be happy with the result. They're too specific for each song, the lines you come up with that works in one won't work in another. They'll always need a lot of editing and tweaking by the user but at least that particular RT gives us a lot of material to work with and they're mixed very well.

I think the best you can hope for from PG is they make the RT demo more realistic as to what a track will sound like rather than changing what that RT will actually generate. We can disagree on the definition but they are named Background. Background horns to me are not going to be playing licks and fills every bar, they are supposed to be background meaning lots of holds are appropriate no different than background organ or piano.

Just had another dangerous thought. Maybe PG could take these horns and create a second RT from them and name it Blues Horns Punches and Fills and that track would play nothing but that all the time. Now we have 2 horn tracks to mix and match. That could work. They could even create some new RT styles using both RT's.

Bob

Last edited by jazzmammal; 08/11/19 06:31 AM.
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