Some interesting ideas here. My biggest fear as I have stated is that major changes to the program could cause years of smoothing out and more and more problems. I have heard from so many people here regarding frustration of bugs and problems that rock on for years not having time or resources to fix in the program. To me this is a whole can of worms just waiting to be opened.

Okay so one wants to stay in BiaB and not leave to a DAW. In order to accomplish this. The program would need far more that just a few extra audio tracks. It would need a true mixer with FX busses, convenient routing. Far better implementation of plugins, better looping and comping tools. Basically it would need to be completely changed into a full figured DAW with everything that a DAW has. Why? Because if it didn’t people would keep asking for more features, more options, more upgrades. Eventually the core program as we know it now and as thousands of others use it would slowly cease to exist.

To my thinking a far more practical approach is to refine the programs available and not totally replace them. We have BiaB with full DAW implementation. It’s called RB, now before anyone says but RB is a little bit shakey, let’s imagine what if RB received a complete make over instead of BiaB rebuilding RB adding to its already rich feature set, better routing, better plugins, solid 64 bit audio engine, unlimited tracks, a more flexible mixer view, modern GUI, a simple one button movement to send a file from BiaB to RB seamlessly without closing one program and opening another. Like an auto open/close feature.

Imagine RB if functions, had the features, and looked like a top flight DAW like a studio one, Cubase, Cakewalk, Reaper. Leave BiaB to do what it does best build a track base, play before full generation. Handle simple but complex arrangements, and leave the tracking, mixing, and mastering to a true DAW.

The reason I propose this is it keeps PGMs release cycle intact. Allowing for BiaB to have some minor upgrades or basic core feature refinements each year for both win and Mac. It allows the developers to continue to add really cool content of RTs, RDs, etc. the company thrives financially, but uses resources to, on the side put a small team on RB and make it what everyone has wanted for years a true companion to BiaB. A rich deep Powerful, stable, DAW that rivals the biggies, yet has all the BiaB power behind it. Bar to bar regen, multiriffs in multiple places, Unlimited RT/RD/midi features. Layer type comping, rich full featured automation of everything.

If this happens to BiaB instead we risk a complete disruption of the core program and maybe several years of major issues as the program is rewritten. RewriteRB instead it doesn’t exist for Mac and this could be implemented as well. Those who use it can use the existing version. The new version can come along with out pressure. Take a whole year for a team to develop it.

Let the plugin be refined to the point it is stable, and solid and has all the basic features working, for those who choose to work in third party DAWs.

Just my thoughts on a plan that would keep all users happy. And give PGM a solid path.

Last edited by Rob Helms; 12/09/19 05:14 AM.
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