Originally Posted By: dharmabam
sorry meant to write roy haynes on ‘change of heart’ / pat metheny / q&a


I understand exactly what you're talking about although Change of Heart is a straight 6/8 feel. The classic post bop modern jazz stuff is not part of Biab styles. I think the reason is it's just too esoteric for Biab users plus it's too difficult to program anyway. The players are doing a lot of free form or partial free form stuff while Biab is a computer program. It does the same thing over and over with some variations but not major variations every one or two bars like Herbie/Chick/Jarrett/Matheny etc do. Even modern smooth jazz/funk/latin is pretty difficult to write a style for like David Benoit, Boney James, or Jeff Lorber. Too many specific phrases, rhythm punches, unison lines BS all that to work well in Biab.

Biab is a groove generator that will give you 32 bars of groovin rhythm in many classic styles from folk to rock to straight ahead jazz to lots of things. Put in whatever chords you want and jam along. This kind of post bob free flowing "can't tell what the chord changes are" stuff would be pretty difficult to write in a strict style that has to follow rules as in this is what happens at bar 4, here's what happens at bar 16 etc. If you can find any, good midi files of these tunes that were recorded live by good players on midi controllers could give you what you want plus give you the ability to change things since they're all midi.

Also, you asked why you can change stuff up in midi in your DAW but can't do it in Biab. This is because you're using Real Tracks. RT's are not midi, they're prerecorded audio phrases from 1 to 8 bars long. Biab has tons of all midi styles and those you can change as much as you want.

Bob

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