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First-time poster here! Actually been using BIAB on and off for 25+ years, but never really learned it properly. Got lots of time now with this CV thing going around!

I'd like to modify the Bass Guitar in styles to have the range of a 5-string (low B). The default seems to be 4-string (low E).

Can I modify the range of an instrument?

Thanks in anticipation!

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See if any of the RealTracks in the screen shot below will do. Other than that the answer is likely no.

RealTracks generally provide less range than the recorded instrument is capable of producing. In most cases the artist playing the instrument records chords and riffs common to the intended style or genre.

Many VST instrument developers limit the VST range to the range of an emulated instrument.

So unless you can find some 5 string bass RealTracks or VST emulations or an emulation that offers "extended range" you're likely out of luck.

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What version of BIAB are you using?

If you are using Realtracks, these are audio and so the range of the bass is already set and cannot be changed.

If you are using MIDI, then the range of the bass is more likely determined by the softsynth being used. I've found that if MIDI notes go too low, there is often no synthesiser sound for them.

That said, to change the lowest pitch for MIDI bass, follow the numbers on the image below. (It's under "Options | Preferences | Arrange"). If you don't hear anything, change the sound to Piano and see if it works.

From the sounds of things, you probably need to add B1 (lower B) or B2 (higher B) where E2 is highlighted.

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Thanks for the speedy replies!

I'm using BIAB 2020 Build 715.

I understand that Real Tracks bass lines are programmed to bottom out at E2.

Noel - I followed your instructions, generated a few songs with MIDI styles, but it would never generate a bass note below E2, even with the piano patch chosen.

Could this be a function of the individual styles?

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I've just checked a random MIDI style and the E2 was set in the style. So this might be the problem

Are you familiar with using Stylemaker?

What you need to do is...

1. Open the the style you want

2. Enter "File | Stylemaker | Edit current style"

3. Select "Save As" at the top of the Stylemaker window to save the style with a new name so that you don't overwrite the current style. Style names can only use 8 characters.

(I always use NA as the beginning of my styles name because I then know that I created it and it's easy to find alphabetically.)

4. Select "Bass"

5. Click on the "Misc" button

6. Select the "More" button

Now you'll see E2. Change this and exit out of the style, saving before you leave.

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Thanks, Noel!

I did all of that, but the new style would still only go down to E2, despite my inputting B1 as the lowest bass note.

Perhaps this has to be done in the Stylemaker's Pattern Editor?

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I'm out of ideas, now.

When I get a chance, I'll play around and see if I can find out any more.


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Thanks!

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Out of curiosity.

What's the name of the style are you using?

Also, what is the key of the chord chart and what chord progression are you using?


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