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Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures [Resolved] #644385 02/28/21 08:54 AM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	My song has 4/4 time. A couple measures have two beats of Eb Min and two beats of B7. In EACH of those measures the B7 is greyed out. What does that mean? And how do I keep it from happening? Thanks. Michael AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644415 02/28/21 10:45 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Can you take a screen capture and attach it using the File Manager link in your reply? I tried and it worked fine here. What exact Version and Build of BiaB are you running (Help > About) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_7-43-49.jpg (51.66 KB, 93 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644417 02/28/21 10:47 AM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	The difference between mine and yours is I tried to select 2/4 time. All the measures got a red line under them. The band in the box thing says it’s in four four time. The notation says it said 2/4 time. My B7 is grayed out and does not play. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644420 02/28/21 10:54 AM Beginners Forum
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Everything is working as designed. The red line indicates you used F5 (bar settings) to make a change. In BIAB, you will still have a cell for chord entry with two halves of that cell, and you can still enter a chord in the right-hand half. If you start a song in 4/4 but change to 2/4, anything in the second half of that cell (and those after) will not play. That's why it's greyed out. Perhaps you need to go to a measure after the 2/4 measure and do F5 and restore four beats per bar. Without knowing the song, I can't be sure. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644423 02/28/21 10:59 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: goofeyfoot The difference between mine and yours is I tried to select 2/4 time. All the measures got a red line under them. The band in the box thing says it’s in four four time. The notation says it said 2/4 time. My B7 is grayed out and does not play. I believe that you just answered your own question. You didn't mention 2/4 time signature previously. If the bar only allows two beats then I would expect the chord on beats 3&4 to be disabled. Consider placing the B7 on the next bar? Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_7-56-14.jpg (51.49 KB, 80 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures AudioTrack #644424 02/28/21 11:01 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	If you want the B7 to play, place it on the next bar. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_7-58-58.jpg (68.69 KB, 77 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644427 02/28/21 11:02 AM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	So what you’re saying is that the program can’t handle a chord change that lasts only one beat? I’m not writing this song. Someone else did. So I can’t just change the music to suit the program. So how can I get their tempo? Or can I? AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644434 02/28/21 11:21 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: goofeyfoot So what you’re saying is that the program can’t handle a chord change that lasts only one beat? I’m not writing this song. Someone else did. So I can’t just change the music to suit the program. So how can I get their tempo? Or can I? Previously you mentioned 2 beats, and now mention 1 beat so I'm a little confused. The program can handle 1 beat bars. Select the bar and press <F5> and set the number of beats to 1 (or 2), then on a required following bar, press <F5> again and set the number of beats to 2 or 3 or 4, based on whatever is required. But now you also mentioned tempo, which doesn't change with the number of beats in a bar. You can change the tempo using several different methods, i.e. for the entire song or only for certain bars. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_8-16-22.jpg (49.47 KB, 73 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644437 02/28/21 11:25 AM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	OK what I’m trying to say is this. This song is in two four time. Which I guess means there’s two beats per measure. One of the measures has a chord on the first beat and a different chord on the second beat. It’s that second chord that is the B7 that won’t play and that is grayed out. I didn’t know about the F5 thing or whether that would solve my issue. I mistakenly referenced tempo. I was talking about time signature the whole time. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644439 02/28/21 11:29 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: goofeyfoot OK what I’m trying to say is this. This song is in two four time. Which I guess means there’s two beats per measure. One of the measures has a chord on the first beat and a different chord on the second beat. It’s that second chord that is the B7 that won’t play and that is grayed out. I didn’t know about the F5 thing or whether that would solve my issue. I mistakenly referenced tempo. I was talking about time signature the whole time. If you want two chords across only two beats, (i.e. beats 1 & 2) enter the two chords separated with a comma, e.g. Ebm,B7 Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_8-27-06.jpg (9.32 KB, 69 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644440 02/28/21 11:32 AM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	OK. Two/four time signature. Two beat measure. Beat one is a E flat minor. Beat 2 is a B7. How do you write that? Last edited by goofeyfoot; 02/28/21 11:33 AM. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644445 02/28/21 11:51 AM Beginners Forum
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,232 Wauconda	Quote: enter the two chords separated with a comma, e.g. Ebm,B7 BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644459 02/28/21 12:53 PM Beginners Forum
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	This question has changed considerably but it appears to be answered. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644465 02/28/21 02:06 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: goofeyfoot OK. Two/four time signature. Two beat measure. Beat one is a E flat minor. Beat 2 is a B7. How do you write that? I thought I had answered it previously with this statement and a screen capture. Quote: If you want two chords across only two beats, (i.e. beats 1 & 2) enter the two chords separated with a comma, e.g. Ebm,B7 Has this answered your question(s)? BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644466 02/28/21 02:07 PM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	I think so. Have not tried yet. Thanks. Michael AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644468 02/28/21 02:11 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	You can also enter different chords on different beats of the measure using Chord Settings (right-click on the chord): Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2021-03-01_11-08-49.jpg (55.34 KB, 56 downloads) BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644605 03/01/21 12:53 PM Beginners Forum
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Tobias Expert Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,753 San Andreas Fault	Click on the bar. Enter Ebm comma B7 like this [Ebm,B7]. The comma allows you to place the chord on the 2nd beat. This works whether you have a chord on the 1st beat or not. As in [ __,B7] ( no underscore needed, just enter comma-B7 ). If you were in 4/4 the comma also allows you to place the chord on the 4th beat. Does the noise in your head bother me ?

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644614 03/01/21 02:16 PM Beginners Forum
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OP goofeyfoot Apprentice Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 150	Yes. I used the comma method and it worked. Thanks again. Michael AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Processor. 3.79 GHZ; RAM = 32.00 GB; 64 Bit Operating System; Windows 10; Focusrite 8i18 External Card; Real Band; Band in a Box; Coyote Forte Wave Table; Oxygen 49 MIDI Controller

Re: Greyed Out Chords in Certain Measures goofeyfoot #644666 03/01/21 07:12 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Great. Perhaps consider going back to your first post and marking it as Resolved. There's a button for that. This can assist others in the future. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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