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Windows 10 - Biab 2021 Pro (827)

My son is remote, a few States away. I had this idea to trade a Biab song back and forth and let each of us add a little something to it.
He set up some chords, dropped in an audio track and sent it to me. Sounds great, real styles, audio, everything.

Over his work, I then recorded lead guitar onto Utility Track#1. Nothin'. No matter what I do, I cannot get that audio to sound off. It's recorded, just not going through the same processing. I see the VU's in the mixer and I see the wav in the wav editor screen. (Both of them --audio and utility)

I've tried the other drivers I have: ASIO4AALL, MME, and WAS. I was able to get the Utility track to play through my computer monitor speakers using WAS (I think) and can probably duplicate that but that doesn't really help me. Only the .wav file played.

I use a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and I usually use the Focusrite ASIO driver. Front In is my guitar, back is Out to a powered speaker. USB to my laptop (newer). I haven't needed to mess around with the ASIO settings in the past and have them at their defaults (I just increase buffers to prevent it from hanging up when saving a Take).

My computer is also putting out through the Focusrite driver. I've scoured the user guides, youtube and googled.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

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Use RealBand. If you and your son have the windows version of BIAB you both have RB. Can't suggest a solution to your BIAB problem but RB is simple and straightforward and lots of things that are difficult in BIAB are easy in RB.

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Make sure the volume is set in the mixer for the utility track


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Originally Posted By: JryHolder
Windows 10 - Biab 2021 Pro (827)

My son is remote, a few States away. I had this idea to trade a Biab song back and forth and let each of us add a little something to it.
He set up some chords, dropped in an audio track and sent it to me. Sounds great, real styles, audio, everything.

Over his work, I then recorded lead guitar onto Utility Track#1. Nothin'. No matter what I do, I cannot get that audio to sound off. It's recorded, just not going through the same processing. I see the VU's in the mixer and I see the wav in the wav editor screen. (Both of them --audio and utility)

I've tried the other drivers I have: ASIO4AALL, MME, and WAS. I was able to get the Utility track to play through my computer monitor speakers using WAS (I think) and can probably duplicate that but that doesn't really help me. Only the .wav file played.

I use a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and I usually use the Focusrite ASIO driver. Front In is my guitar, back is Out to a powered speaker. USB to my laptop (newer). I haven't needed to mess around with the ASIO settings in the past and have them at their defaults (I just increase buffers to prevent it from hanging up when saving a Take).

My computer is also putting out through the Focusrite driver. I've scoured the user guides, youtube and googled.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks





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thanks guys, I appreciate your thoughts. I didn't think about real band at all. And were it just me, Reaper fills that void along with the Biab VST.
But I gotta bring my son along too, and that's a bit of a challenge --and he on a Mac, of course. I;m ot even sure if Mac 2020 (the latest) can record to Utility tracks.
Anyway, we'll try RB. thanks again!

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If he has a Mac, RB will not be available.


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Originally Posted By: JryHolder
thanks guys, I appreciate your thoughts. I didn't think about real band at all. And were it just me, Reaper fills that void along with the Biab VST.
But I gotta bring my son along too, and that's a bit of a challenge --and he on a Mac, of course. I;m ot even sure if Mac 2020 (the latest) can record to Utility tracks.
Anyway, we'll try RB. thanks again!


Mac 2020 does not have any utility tracks, just one single Audio track, which of course you can record directly onto. Utility tracks were added in the 2021 version for Windows, and will likely be added to 2021 for Mac.

As for your issue with recording/playing back, try using the Focusrite driver, then under Options > Preferences > Audio > Audio Drivers > ASIO Driver's Control Panel, increase the buffer size incrementally and see if that helps.

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Originally Posted By: JryHolder
Windows 10 - Biab 2021 Pro (827)

I've tried the other drivers I have: ASIO4AALL, MME, and WAS. I was able to get the Utility track to play through my computer monitor speakers using WAS (I think) and can probably duplicate that but that doesn't really help me. Only the .wav file played.



Hi! Speaking as a totally baffled newbie, I've noticed that nobody mentioned something that completely tripped me up. After you use a Utility Track in Band in a Box (at least, if you've imported a MIDI; I haven't tried importing audio yet), you have to re-enable the style. Sometimes I get a pop up that says "Okay to enable style?" but usually I don't, and I'm still baffled enough to not know what the difference is. Sometimes it works to just click on the style in the toolbar and that enables it.

Henry Clarke has an easy to understand tutorial that addresses this. It probably covers topics you don't need, but it sure sheds a lot of light on the topic for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOHosQ2PYiY&t=3s The tutorial starts at 3:17.

Best to you!
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Hi Cathie, what build version of BIAB are you using?

In Band-in-a-Box, go to the Help menu, and click About Band-in-a-Box. Near the top of that window, it will have Version 20xx and a number in brackets - what is that number?


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Originally Posted By: Simon - PG Music
Hi Cathie, what build version of BIAB are you using?

In Band-in-a-Box, go to the Help menu, and click About Band-in-a-Box. Near the top of that window, it will have Version 20xx and a number in brackets - what is that number?


Thank you for telling me how to find it, Simon. It says 814. I know there's a later build but I'm uncertain how to download it since I'm using BiaB from the hard drive and not from my computer.


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The latest update can be downloaded here: https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm

Once you download the installer, run it and when you're given the option install the update to your external drive - could be d:\bb, e:\bb, depends what drive letter your drive is using. The DAW plugin needs to go to the C: drive, so leave that part as is.

We've got a video on the process here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02G9LkCQnZ4


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Thank you, Simon!


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Originally Posted By: Cathie
Thank you, Simon!


You're welcome! Let us know if it helps or if you require more assistance. You can contact us at support@pgmusic.com for any further troubleshooting, or through the live chat.


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