PG Music Home Forums General Discussion Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production THINKING LIKE A PRODUCER_Part 1

Thanks for your quick David. I've backed off a lot from these type discussions and likely won't be making a lot of contributions but would like to give you a reply. I'll go backwards from the last of your comments to the first. I think it makes more sense.

<< Thanks a lot and I look forward to one of your own "Think Like a Producer" lessons. >>

Probably not. See my opening comment above and my last one below.

<< Last, I think instructions are better with they use the words "can" and "could" instead of "should" and "must." For example, you can say "You could do this in BIAB..." but an endless loop of counterproductive feedback is caused when you say "you should or must do this in....[insert program]" and "Never in....[insert program]" because people will argue about that forever. Like me and Audacity. I still love to use it for certain things, although I feel I have a good handle on the million things BIAB can do since I use it every day. >>

If your first impression of my comment was dump Audacity for BIAB, that wasn't my intention. Forum folks are very attached to their workflows and DAWs and most are quite efficient and productive. Stay with what works. However, my point in mentioning Audacity is that particularly with simple audio editing tasks, comping tracks and several other tasks, BIAB's Audio Editor beats DAWs and Audacity hands down. It's better. It's faster and it's more powerful than any exterior program, including RealBand and the BIAB VST DAW Plugin when specifically working with BIAB generated audio. Just as you do, I typically use Audacity daily. I love it. But, regarding using it with BIAB, I prepare audio for import into BIAB rather than exporting BIAB generated tracks out to Audacity.

<< For ME, and just me, I find RealBand is incredible for doing certain things in a workflow and editing capacity that you cannot do in Band-in-Box. To me they are two different tools. Like a piano vs. a cello. I don't even try and compare them. >>

Hang in there with RealBand. As I said earlier, folks are very attached to their workflows and DAWs and most are quite efficient and productive. That's reason enough to not change but just be aware RealBand is BIAB lite and lacking features, techniques and processes of BIAB. Not all of them can likely benefit every producer but most all are beneficial as a production tool so producers no longer bypass things only BIAB can do with a single track in seconds versus having to take minutes to do a task manually generating multiple tracks and cut/paste in RB or any other DAW.

A better analogy for a BIAB/RB comparison than a piano to a Cello is a Cello to a Double Bass. The Audio Editor is very robust and retains all of BIAB's features, techniques, tools and processes. Not just some of them like RealBand has.

<< Examples are always best, I think, when folks link to a song they created using such and such technique, so users can "hear" the example in practice. Short examples of one specific thing are better than 12 examples of many things, because that causes the brain to shut down I believe. >>

If you know what RT1152 is without looking it up, ask yourself why PG Music programmers use RT1152 so extensively in the demos and with MultiStyles? If you don't know what RT1152 is, its a RealTrack that generates 'silence' and is very important to how BIAB locates specific audio phrases and when and where to use those phrases or chords rather than just selecting a chord that matches what the user placed in that Bar to play on the Chord Chart Page. You can hear it in most PG Music RealTrack demos and see and hear it used in most MultiStyles. RealBand nor the VST DAW Plugin recognize and utilize MultiStyles so RT1152 doesn't have the same value in RealBand or the VST DAW Plugin and it's useless in any other DAW.

<< I would love to see you add to this series of threads by creating one of your own, showing things you think BIAB can do that others might not be aware of. >>

From my comments in the Wish List Forum where I was admonished to stop making so many "BIAB can do this" comments, it's probably the best advice for me to take in this thread too and only answer any questions directed to me how to or can BIAB do a task. It's a great discussion so far and I'll be following along. I'm glad you thought to post this thread.