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Not this way is altered with the help from members of this forum. Dave Bell offered to play the solo guitar on this song and it's in it now. I think that was really some improvement! Ray Cochrane and Vic Arnold came with very good suggestions on the lyrics. Vic also suggested to skip the BG-singers, so I fired them and had to sing the song on my own... I think this is a good example of how the forum can be a great help. I enjoyed that process very much! Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Former post It's almost December so I thought a nice blues song would be appropriate these dark days. The melody I made somewhere in 2018, but I renewed it (lyrics, vocals, some instruments) and a better mixing/mastering than I could in those days. At least that was my intention. Maybe you have a different opinion. I like to read your opinion on it, so let me know. Hans Berkhout The song is called Not This Way https://soundcloud.com/user-296497130/not-this-way=================================================== The -new- lyrics: Not this way (c) HwBerkhout 08-21-18/ 11-30-22 I used to sing my favourite song About beer, women and so on I fell in love more than intended Many broken hearts to be mended I was the villain, that's how they saw me Their feelings flew out of my chimney I didn't want it, I'm not that bad but that nagging each morning made me sad Then you came in, sending me cold chills We kissed, I felt the thrills Racing up and down my spine But this morning you drew the line No, it can't be over, not this way Tell me what song you want me to play? We can be happy, don't you see? If you still have feelings for me =Solo= Life will give us roses, I promise you that Not the thorns I mostly had They hurt me like you just did But we can change all of it Oh, tell me why you left today How can I change it to your way? I don't want it, not like this That villain no longer exists No, it can't be over, not this way Tell me what song you want me to play? We can be happy, don't you see? Please come back, to me =Solo= No, it can't be over, not this way I'll sing any song you say I promise you paradise So don't let our feelings turn to ice ============================================================== Technical information: Style: SOULTRY.STY Key: Em Temp: 95 bpm RealTracks: 2915: Bass, Elec. 2906:Piano, Elec. Vintage 2158:Guitar, Elec, Funky Groove 2904:Guitar, Elec, Gritty Bluesy 673:Organ, B3 576:Guitar, Elec., Solist Blues RealDrums:FunkHalfNoteSync: a: Snare, Kickb: Busy Kick Me: Keyboard: NI Pharlight, vocals and lyrics
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Hi Hans
Really cool blues song
I like the vocals as always with you ;-)
The band is really good
Also the solo guitar sounds good
But maybe it is a bit too loud compared to the rest of the band
But that's just my feeling.
In any case, the song makes a lot of fun
Well done Hans
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Hans, fantastic blues.
Super vocal and mix
Loved that guitar lead and that subtle B3 - brilliant
Loved it
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Really nice and bluesy Hans.
Wonderful song with good vocals!
Anne-Marie
PS Ik luister altijd met oortjes in en hoor de backing vocal alleen aan de linkerkant.
Is dat de bedoeling?
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Good song, good band and good vocal capture.
Some of the phrasing truck me as odd as did some of the translation
BUT
It's a cool thing none-the-less.
Cheers
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Excellent song, Hans, loved the intro, and as always, I really like your vocal.
I liked the lead guitar during the intro, but wasn't mad about the solo he played to be honest. But, that's a matter of taste.
Overall a strong song, really enjoyed.
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Hullo Hans.
I like the choice of instruments which mix nicely with the song's cool JJ Cale style.
Not so keen on the doubling of the vocal and reverb effect which distances the vocal from the rest of the mix and gives the voice a harsh sound.
I would change the lyrics slightly.
Verse 1: "Much broken hearts" to "Many broken hearts".
Verse 2: "flew out of my chime" to "fly out of my chime".
Verse 5: "Live will give us roses" to "Life will give us roses".
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Hi Vic, I start answering the posts with yours. Thanks for the very nice words on the song, but also on your critics. Hullo Hans.
I like the choice of instruments which mix nicely with the song's cool JJ Cale style.
Not so keen on the doubling of the vocal and reverb effect which distances the vocal from the rest of the mix and gives the voice a harsh sound.
I would change the lyrics slightly.
Verse 1: "Much broken hearts" to "Many broken hearts".
Verse 2: "flew out of my chime" to "fly out of my chime".
Verse 5: "Live will give us roses" to "Life will give us roses".
Vic
About the use of the words, I'm very happy with your corrections. Even when it meant I had to sing the whole song again (except verse 5), because I sang it correctly, but wrote it wrong. The second change I made was skipping the background vocals as you suggested. I hestitated some time about that, but I wasn't satisfied with the sound/tightness of them. So this is the 'solo' version... But don't let it go to your head, sometimes I'm not zo easy... ;-) Thanks, Hans
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Hi Andi, Thanks a lot for your so nice post! But take a look below your comment here too Hi Hans
Really cool blues song
I like the vocals as always with you ;-)
The band is really good
Also the solo guitar sounds good
But maybe it is a bit too loud compared to the rest of the band
But that's just my feeling.
In any case, the song makes a lot of fun
Well done Hans
Many greetings
Andi ;-) If you read my answer to Vic, you also read I can be (a tiny bit) stubborn, or cocky. In your case I didn't recognised the loudness on the solo. But i listened several times with your comment in mind. But the result is I don't hear a need to lower it's volume. I hope we still can stay friends! Hans
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[Ha! I just finished writing a song called Dark Days Are Numbered.] This is really good, Hans. Excellent impassioned vocal. The whole band accents that feel. I get the temptation to improve lyrics, but on the other hand, considering you are singing as someone from the Netherlands to the English girl that didn't get it*, I'd say they were perfect as they were. And I'm as pedantic as they come. Love the song.
*didn't understand how good she had it.
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Okay, Hans.
It will take more than that for you to lose me as a friend ;-)))
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Hi Mario, RnAM and Ray, Hans, fantastic blues.
Super vocal and mix
Loved that guitar lead and that subtle B3 - brilliant
Loved it
Thanks a lot Mario. But I made an update on the song due to comments here in this post ;-) I hope to hear what you think of the update. Really nice and bluesy Hans.
Wonderful song with good vocals!
Anne-Marie
PS Ik luister altijd met oortjes in en hoor de backing vocal alleen aan de linkerkant.
Is dat de bedoeling?
Hi Anne-Marie, thanks for the compliments. And there is an update now, because I made some mistakes and Dave offered his help to make a Blues solo as they have to sound. And your Dutch sentence: I haven't heard anything strange in my headphones, but the BG is gone now... Good song, good band and good vocal capture.
Some of the phrasing truck me as odd as did some of the translation
BUT
It's a cool thing none-the-less. Hi Ray, we discussed the odd things on email. Thanks for your suggestions. I used them all and added some of myself too. And also thanks for your compliments! Well, I am very happy with the help of the forum, but I also feel a bit ambivalent. Normally a song needs to be finished when posting it. And here it wasn't. Hans
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Any time you add Dave's guitar to the brew, you've mixed a potent blues. Plus your good lyrics and singing are a treat. Nice job on this one, enjoyed it much!
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Well, I am very happy with the help of the forum, but I also feel a bit ambivalent.
Normally a song needs to be finished when posting it. And here it wasn't.
The rework is grand...Mr Bell rings in the changes and chimes in perfectly. No need for ambivalence mate, you wrote the thing & produced a cool song. The input of forum members merely added a little to help the already cool song achieve even more of its potential. I know you prefer to post a "complete" work but you also know that I rarely do, as I value the input of forum ears.
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Dave's guitar was a really filled the song out. Super vocal and lyric Hans. Backtrack had a really cool groove to it. Really well done..
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It's always the season for blues! It sound all good to me - vocals, guitar, lyrics... all of it! 
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Excellent in al aspects. Dave's sizzling guitar and your impassioned vocal puts in the top tier. I don't care what that Dave Bell fellow says, I like the guitar solo! 
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Enjoyable blues song with pleasant collaboration, every note Dave plays is pure blues magic. You and Blue Attitude are the best blues song producers on this forum, but please remind me if I forgot someone worth mentioning too Nice story with thorns and roses. Good selection of other instruments, the drums are nicely mixed. I like your laid-back vocal performance. Janne
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Hans,
Stunningly Good!
A very passionate vocal.
Dave's guitar is smokin'
Mix sounds good.
REALLY like this.
Your Best Ever.
fj
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Good day, mr Marty, I nearly forgot to react to your post, athough it was a very funny one. I told my wife how lucky she was I sang her another song... [Ha! I just finished writing a song called Dark Days Are Numbered.] This is really good, Hans. Excellent impassioned vocal. The whole band accents that feel. I get the temptation to improve lyrics, but on the other hand, considering you are singing as someone from the Netherlands to the English girl that didn't get it*, I'd say they were perfect as they were. And I'm as pedantic as they come. Love the song.
*didn't understand how good she had it. Hey Marty, I thought you to be the most positive man I met. When I send you the first concept of a dark song of mine, and with that strange solo in it, you fell silence. I thought because of the dark lyrics, but now I read you finished a dark song yourself. So it must have been that strange solo then. Later I heard from Dave you were very, very busy. But I loved your comment on this song! and you were right about the girl... Is your dark song ready yet? Cheers, Hans
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Hans, I listened to this a little while ago and thought for sure that I commented. I must have gotten distracted. This is really good! Dave’s guitar work is spot on as usual and I liked the impassioned vocal. The mix sounds great. Good job, I enjoyed it, Tom
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“Dave's sizzling guitar and your impassioned vocal puts in the top tier.” We completely agree with Ezekiel’s comment above. Yea for Teamwork! The write, the choice of tracks, your vocal and Dave’s solo all are outstanding ... the complete package. The mix sounds great on our monitors and Janice said likewise on her AirPods. Aren’t you glad you revisited this 2018 song? Good one! Actually an excellent one And you know we love the blues. J&B
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Sounds good to me, Hans.
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Hans,
A sizzling, cool blues with a great feeling in your vocal and awesome guitar from Dave.
Fantastic!
Robert
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Hans...great production and sound...Dave is crazy good! the entire band you put together delivers completely..vocally one of your best!
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Oh yeah Hans! This song has a great sound. You couldn't have gotten a better guitar picker for this song - it has Dave Bell written all over it. The mix is great and your vocals hit the mark sooo well. Great collab with the writing - and that back track to the song was terrific. Really good!
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Hi TM, Ray and Scott, Thanks a lot for your posts or second posts. I'm very pleased with the nice words in them. Any time you add Dave's guitar to the brew, you've mixed a potent blues. Plus your good lyrics and singing are a treat. Nice job on this one, enjoyed it much! TM, yes when Dave came in, and the lyrics had some corrections, the song was far better than the title suggested...
The rework is grand...Mr Bell rings in the changes and chimes in perfectly.
No need for ambivalence mate, you wrote the thing & produced a cool song. The input of forum members merely added a little to help the already cool song achieve even more of its potential.
I know you prefer to post a "complete" work but you also know that I rarely do, as I value the input of forum ears.
Ray, those chimes had become a huge eyeopener for me. Didn't know al those years what I actually sang. But you, vic and Dave did a really good job and you are right. This help is also what the forum can be useful for! Thanks for that. Dave's guitar was a really filled the song out. Super vocal and lyric Hans. Backtrack had a really cool groove to it. Really well done.. Scott, very kind of you. but maybe both of you can play a duet on one of my next songs. Two leads playing along... That would be something, don't you think? I hope you all will have some very nice days the coming time. And we'll meet in 2023! (or somewhere on the forum these days), Hans
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Man, I'm gone for a few days, and WOW did you improve this song. Dave is an excellent choice. Such impact. Well done!!
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Hi David, Ezekiel, Janne and Floyd, I found my song back on page 3. That means I am late with my replies. And that's true, but I had a cold too. And there was a soccer championship in Qatar, but we've been kicked out. So here I am. Thank you for your very kind words on the altered song. It's always the season for blues! It sound all good to me - vocals, guitar, lyrics... all of it! Hi David, you're right, however, wintertime is even better for Blues. Dark times... Glad you liked it all! Excellent in al aspects. Dave's sizzling guitar and your impassioned vocal puts in the top tier. I don't care what that Dave Bell fellow says, I like the guitar solo! Hi Ezekiel, I have to respond with 'wow' for these compliments! And yes, I had to get used to his solo too... Enjoyable blues song with pleasant collaboration, every note Dave plays is pure blues magic. You and Blue Attitude are the best blues song producers on this forum, but please remind me if I forgot someone worth mentioning too Nice story with thorns and roses. Good selection of other instruments, the drums are nicely mixed. I like your laid-back vocal performance. Janne Hello Janne, (just for the sake of variation I use 'hello'here instead of 'hi') for your message, a 'wow' is also the right response. Thanks! But I think you forgot some people... ;-) Hans,
Stunningly Good!
A very passionate vocal.
Dave's guitar is smokin'
Mix sounds good.
REALLY like this.
Your Best Ever.
fj Hi Floyd, your reaction also is worth a 'wow'! The only minor line is you called it my best ever. The song was from 2018. I think that one has yet to come... I wish you all a merry christmas, Hans
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Hans,
I don't know what the original version sounded like, but this sounds great! This really reminds me of a slower version of the Stones "Miss You" for some reason! Adding Dave's part really makes this song take off! It sounds really good! Your vocals are excellent! You can't go wrong taking advice from Ray and Vic! They always are on top of their game! It's a super sounding track!
Thanks, T
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Hans,
Fantastic work on this bluez. Good energy & vocals. Dave's guitar is stellar. Clear mix and listens very well. One of your best production as far as sound goes. Thank you for sharing.
Misha.
P.S. The BGVs feel a bit synthetic. Did you had a soft heart moment and didn't fire them, leaving working part time?
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Hi Tommy, Janice and Bud, Robert and Firesong, A little late (again) with my reply, but I really enjoyed your posts. I read them all right after you sent them. Hans, I listened to this a little while ago and thought for sure that I commented. I must have gotten distracted. This is really good! Dave’s guitar work is spot on as usual and I liked the impassioned vocal. The mix sounds great. Good job, I enjoyed it, Tom Hi Tommy, you were not distracted I quess. You were astonished at what you heard! and then you forgot all you were doing or had to do. I imagine this happened to you. It happens to some around me too, every now and then. And now more seriously: thanks for your nice compliments. I was glad that Dave was in the situation he could play with me. He was in the middle of another song, but had to wait for something. And then he played this one! “Dave's sizzling guitar and your impassioned vocal puts in the top tier.” We completely agree with Ezekiel’s comment above. Yea for Teamwork! The write, the choice of tracks, your vocal and Dave’s solo all are outstanding ... the complete package. The mix sounds great on our monitors and Janice said likewise on her AirPods. Aren’t you glad you revisited this 2018 song? Good one! Actually an excellent one And you know we love the blues. J&B Hello Janice and Bud, a very nice comment from you! Yes, after all I was glad with the comments I got on the previous version. Well... a mixed feeling, but it tuned out excellent! And compared with the version from 2018, I'm surely glad I did it, with the help of the forum! The lyrics at that time were a bit strange. I'm glad I could alter them properly (and I'm aware I create a great risk for myself saying that the former lyrics were a bit strange...). Thanks for listening on the boomboxes AND on the Airpods. Now I know the sound was alright :-) Hans,
A sizzling, cool blues with a great feeling in your vocal and awesome guitar from Dave.
Fantastic!
Robert Hi Robert, I didn't know you also like Blues (joke). Thanks for the nice compliment! Hans...great production and sound...Dave is crazy good! the entire band you put together delivers completely..vocally one of your best! Hello Firesong, thanks for your nice words! And yes, Dave is good. Everyone tells him that, and rightly so! And I hope my vocals will stay the way you described. I wish you all a very nice and creative day! Hans
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Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!
Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 et bien plus encore!
Tous Packages | Nouvelles Fonctionnalités
Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V
Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!
We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!
Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a
If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!
Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function
User Video: Convert MIDI Chords into AI Vocal Harmonies with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
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