1..will sm only work in bb 64 bit ? what about bb 32/rb 32 n' 64 bit /other daws ? 2..am i correct in thinking one must 'always' create a chord trak ? 3..why doesnt sm/util trak just assume one wants to use the chords already layed out on the chord sheet ? why the xtra step ? i'm confused.
its no biggie but the bottom of sm is cut off here. i can still work with it tho'.
if i remember sm used to come in computer music magazines suite of plug ins…. dunno if it still does.
above is a video of its use. tho' an earlier version vid i assume it might be of use to someone interested in synths ?
frankly i'm no synth whizz…lol. just trying to get to grips with this synth.
any info would be nice.
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Hi, The SynthMaster Player that comes with BIAB is 32bit and 64bit VST and can be used in other DAW's Your YouTube link is showing the full version of SynthMaster with all the editing parameters.
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but it looks like it wont load in a 32 bit app. eg bb 32 no go.
are you saying sm works in all your 32 bit apps ?
sorry to trouble you…i'm normally good at this stuff lol.
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om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/26/2302:26 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
in 32 bit bb synthmaster shows in 'choose plug in' list. but it doesnt load when hilited and chosen.
maybe its a prob with 32 bit bb ?
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om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 02/26/2303:45 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
justanoldmuso, I don't use 32 bit Band-in-a-Box so I don't know why 32 bit Synthmaster doesn't load in 32 bit BiaB. Have you brought this question to PG Music support?
i dont like to trouble support if i can find answer here. no biggie i'll just use 64 bit biab.
A couple of things that have really impressed me with this bb 23 is…
1..imho if people say they can't do modern genres given this new master synth and other plug ins n' content in bb i feel they wont with anything. i find i can get just a ton of nice modern sounds out of just synthmaster. i'm spoilt for sound choices. plus there are loads of freebie vi's on the net.
2..i'm finding that the genning of songs/rt's etc etc on my system is nearly instantaneous. much faster. is it me or are you finding the same ?
best
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
1..will sm only work in bb 64 bit ? what about bb 32/rb 32 n' 64 bit /other daws ?
It's only 64-bit
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2..am i correct in thinking one must 'always' create a chord trak ?
No, you do not need a MIDI chord track at all... but you DO need to have some MIDI notes on the track, otherwise nothing will play. The MIDI chord track is very useful for the apreggiator patches (you can identify them because they start with 'ARP'), and also for pads. You can choose them yourself in the SynthMaster window, or you can use our presets which you will find in the Select HiQ Instrument dialog (filter for synthmaster).
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3..why doesnt sm/util trak just assume one wants to use the chords already layed out on the chord sheet ? why the xtra step ? i'm confused.
Well, it DOES use chords from the chord sheet. It just allows you to define specifically how you want to use those chords to write the chord track. For example, perhaps you only want to use notes below middle C, or want them played really softly, etc.
I have never used this instrument. I don't think this is BIAB's strong point. Because I have NEXUS and AVENGER. I suggest that if BIAB wants to add some modern electronic sound, it is better to make REALTRACK.
swingbabymix, I am glad you got top of the line synths...
Synthmaster is included basically as a bonus. For someone starting out, it is an amazing synth. It has some very decent sounds and deep controls and arpeggios. Some patches very comparable with sounds from Halion & Komplete.
You should perhaps share some of your music in Showcase or include an example from youtube in the request tracks section of the forum of the stuff you are looking for.
P.S. you can try to record a User Track yourself using your synts..... If done right, will act like RT.
thanks for your comments. got it . i'm haveing loads of fun with the synthmaster plug in. i just use a dumb midi kbd over usb to trigger.
Andrew...i forgot to mention...
as realband has the great easy midi transpose feature.. i used with synthmaster n' got an insane number of sounds includeing sci fi etc etc...includeing sound 'stacking'.. its got me cranked up cos there are sooo many sound creation possibilities n' beats n' goodness what else. kudos to pg for includeing this. a wonderfull synth product imho. i have an external midi synth module here...to the basement it goes lol. sm is rocking my socks...
best
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 03/11/2304:50 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
No, you do not need a MIDI chord track at all... but you DO need to have some MIDI notes on the track, otherwise nothing will play.
What are the functional differences between the old Sforzando and the new SynthMaster, other than soundbank? Can they be used interchangably?
In other words, rather than generating a chord track, can you do it the old way, by adding MIDI or Super MIDI to a track, generate, then delete Sforzando, play that track with SynthMaster?
SynthMaster Player has two versions. A free version with 550 sounds, a paid version with 2200 sounds.
Which version comes with BiaB 2023 installer?
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i show just shy of 2000 patches in smaster……plus loads more using the old midi transpose trick. you can have oodles of traks in rb so the skys the limit.
after 3 days with sm i'm still finding new sounds. frankly there are so many sounds in it…i'm still absorbing it all. its mind boggling. i'm going thru sm identifying my fav patches.
basically you can do anything with a midi trak in rb thats either imported OR generated by rb. and tricks to discover useing rb features.
if you want to go really bonkers you can gen a midi trak and go crazy like use the rb drum pattern generator n' then plug in a synth like smaster or whatever syntn n' make crazy sounds out of a midi trak that started as a midi drum trak…skys the limit.
remember pg gives you a 30 day guarantee....cos i dont know all your methods.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
to summarise it seems that sm behaves like any other vi/synth/instrument plug in.
as to music genres it includes non edm genres. mind boggling array of sounds possible.
i count about 40 genres.
really this is a v flexible plug in.
DONT think of it as just a synth plug in…think of it also as a 'painter of sonic pictures'.
eg it could be used in rock or country or sci fi or tv or film soundscapes.
for example lets say you want subtle background music to accompany a eagle flying over a landscape or say a herd of zebra in africa…you can do that. it all depends how one applies oneself in the creation process.
the other thing is it includes a cpu resource indicator….and various oscillators n' dials i havent had time to play with yet. (note i'm no synth pro…i tend to use presets a lot.)
basically if there are midi notes on a rb trak…sound will play back.
frankly this synth plus the cm vi plug ins i have (check out cm DUNE sometime.)... its like i have an 'aladdins cave' of sound possibilities.
i think as we prolly do songs differently that you test out smaster n' see if it meets your needs. thats the best way.
best.
om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
• SM Non-Arpeggiator Sound: Use MIDI or SuperMIDI Generation.
• Non-EDM Track: Use Sforzando, not SM.
I have the full version of SM and all of its patches, thus what I can do may or may not be available in the PGM version of SM.
There are many patches that are non-EDM that one can use in place of Sforzando. Note that these are synth sounds so they will be the vintage sounding horns, strings, etc and not true emulations like Kontakt, Sampletank, etc. I have used some of these sounds in my songs.
Plus with the full version you have a ton of ways to manipulate the patches.
Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer. It's called the Heineken Maneuver.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Sadly, after reading you guys' testimonies, I became a SynthMaster junkie myself.
An addiction is easy to get on, hard to get off.
As of today, every single song I produce in BiaB, will have SynthMaster in it. Either as meat and potato for EDM vibe, or as salt and pepper for background ambient.
I found the arpeggiator feature combined with Chord Track auto generation is evil. It takes 10 seconds to transform your song into an exotic masterpiece. If it's not cheating, then what is it?
A Canadian music producer, singer songwriter, composer, and professional guitarist.
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