Hello, is there a reason why some styles have an exclamation mark ! at the beginning? Is it a naming convention? Thank you.
I think, (but I'm not sure), that the exclamation mark denotes a Guitar-based Style. From the help: "Guitar Styles are identified by the exclamation point (!) in the style name. This is not a requirement, but is usually present in the style name."
Others may know more.
Also, welcome aboard.
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Thank you AudioTrack! I perused a bit before posting but couldn't find the help you managed to find and I know why I searched for the very British "exclamation mark" (surprisingly it gives no results) and not for the "exclamation point", which is just a sort of enharmonic spelling.
AudioTrack's poset is on p317 of the manual. I noticed an additional mention of exclamation point on p318 of the manual.
It says there that the mark is a convention "to indicate that it is an intelligent guitar style" when using "Guitar Macros". That covers things like chord voicing, walking bass and strum patterns.
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I just learned something. I had no idea there was a difference between using point and mark.
I think it's just a convention difference. Here is the UK we have tended to use mark, I think the US tends to use point, but the two are increasingly common. I also know it as 'bang', though personally I only use is that way in "shebang" the quick name for the #! combination right at the start of Unix-type script files.
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Incidentally, in Australia we would generally always use the term "Exclamation Mark" (not Point). In fact, I don't recall ever seeing the text "Exclamation Point" until it showed up in the BiaB documentation.
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Welcome to America .. we don't speak metric either .. <grin> /except medicine, that always seems to be in milligrams or such, weird how we talk, ain't it?
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Incidentally, in Australia we would generally always use the term "Exclamation Mark" (not Point). In fact, I don't recall ever seeing the text "Exclamation Point" until it showed up in the BiaB documentation.
Same here, Audiotrack. Today was the first time I've heard of "exclamation point". Live and learn!
And yes rharv, we are a weird country to only go partial metric. We need to get over the Imperial System and modernize.
I don't really know why we resist. Does anybody?
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Here in the UK I was taught both metric and Imperial systems when I was a child. I'm now 70. I was once told the Britain would only truly go entirely metric once all the people who had been taught the Imperial system had died.
I think there may be reasons to resist.
In the UK if I buy timber, I'm typically obliged to buy the "metric equivalents" cross-sectional sizes, e.g. 25mmx50mm sawn, 22x45 planed or possibly smaller and with lengths in "wood units", which are 300mm, which is a little less than a foot and which means I can't buy 4m, I have to buy 4.1 metres.
If I'm trying to match timber in my house, which was built in 1911, I sometimes have to buy the next size up and plane it down, though fortunately not too often, though I had to do that extensively when I renewed my floors a few years ago.
If I buy windows or doors, I can buy them in metric (which won't fit) or imperial-equivalent sizes (which will). Builders merchants have to stock both, of course. Ditto with plumbing where we have a totally crazy mix of imperial and metric.
For me the craziest thing of all was when I was a beekeeper. Due to EU regulations we were legally mandated to sell in metric quantities, but to avoid waste of tooling and jars and so on, we were allowed to continue to use the Imperial jars, however they had to be labelled in the "metric" quantities 112g, 227g and 454g (i.e. 1/4lb, 1/2lb and 1lb).
Having grown up with both systems and having knowledge of a few older systems, and having translated between them my whole life, I will occasionally switch to spans and cubits, or to bushels, just to be mischievous. All priced in guineas, of course. (A guinea was one pound and a shilling, now a pound and 5p).
It's all very silly and often quite frustrating.
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I know both systems, and I definitely know which one is better, more versatile and far easier to use
I'd have rather we'd just changed, that this never-ending half-way mongrel of a system!
Which is easier to use is a bit moot, though, at least in some circumstances. A dozen is divisible into an impressive number of integer divisions, as are hours, minutes and seconds; circles (gradians are a decimal-ish hybrid that even my spell-checker doesn't recognise).
But ounces, fluid ounces, pints (US and UK), gallons (ditto), stones, hundredweights, rods, poles, perches, bushels and the rest are, for sure, a nonsense today.
But I still work in binary, ternary, octal and hexadecimal and I still use degrees and nautical miles, which of course are minutes of arc on the Earth's surface.
I also regularly have to explain to Europeans that American billions are 1/1000th the size of European billions. In Europe they're milliards and a billion is a million million.
It's a struggle
It'd have been so much easier if we'd been born with 12 fingers of that shepherd on a hill had counted in binary.
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Gordon, I guess the USA isn't the only stubborn one.
We have something similar with measurements, even though they aren't metric.
A 2 by 4 isn't 2 inches (5.08 cm) by 4 inches (10.16 cm) anymore, it's smaller.
A 2 by 4 is now 1.5 inches (3.81 cm) by 3.5 inches (8.89 cm) which in my mind is cheating. They charge us for a 2x4 and we get a 1.5x3.5, which is a 25% reduction.
I'm thinking about replacing my front door, which is a standard size, but the house was built in 1950. If I replace it with a door supposedly of the same measurements, it's way too small, because again, they are cheating. So I'll have to have one custom-made, at an additional expense.
Here in the US, they use metric when convenient to shrink the size of what used to be a quart, pint, or pound.
Exclamation point or mark? In the days when we used to read copy òut loud to check for accuracy, one of us would read the original whilst the other read the typeset copy . Punctuation was verbalised as follows.... full stop was 'stop' a comma was 'comma' and the exclamation mark was 'dog's chopper'.....honest that's true.
huh, and I thought "funny how we talk, ain't it?" was the catchy part of my post .. turns out the whole metric thing took over .. Oh well, still stirred the conversation a bit.
In some places in the US the use of the word 'yonder' is the worst. Where is the outhouse? .. over yonder (what does that mean?? what measuring system?) or my 4 wheeler broke down, come get me .. ok where are you? .. over yonder past the wash out (pronounced 'warsh out', BTW) It's a wonder we can even communicate over here, it's like the tower of Babel all over again <grin>
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
Incidentally, in Australia we would generally always use the term "Exclamation Mark" (not Point). In fact, I don't recall ever seeing the text "Exclamation Point" until it showed up in the BiaB documentation.
And we use the term "full stop" (.) for what the Americans call a "period" (I believe)
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