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BackgroundThis is a cover by Colors in Motion but the problem I had was I couldn’t find a drum pattern in BiaB that worked so I used a drum pad instead. My request for better search capability is here. RealDrums Search Request Because there is no BiaB content (or any computer generated stems) in this song, the need for “humanizing” is not needed. In fact, you might say this is humanizing on steroids 😊 Technicals105 BPM MeKorg Keyboard: String Pads, Dulcimer, Steel Guitar, E-Piano, Wah Clavichord, Clarinet Roland Drum Pad: Congas, Snare, Floor Tom, HiHat, Clave Fender Bass Foreign Nature
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Steve, absolutely your best to date.
Super mix and instrumentation!
Keep up the good work.
Loved it!
You know you're getting old when a recliner and a heating pad is your idea of a hot date!
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I really like sounds and polyphony.
Original and very well done.
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Steve, absolutely your best to date.
Super mix and instrumentation!
Keep up the good work.
Loved it! Thanks so much Mario. My doubts on this one came from not having computer generated drums, I'm sure the tempo is all over the place. In any event, glad you liked it.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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I really like sounds and polyphony.
Original and very well done.
Laurent Hey Laurent, thanks for the listen and glad you liked it. Thanks also for re-introducing me to the term polyphony. From Wikipedia: Polyphony is a type of musical texture consisting of two or more simultaneous lines of independent melody, as opposed to a musical texture with just one voice or a texture with one dominant melodic voice accompanied by chords. Within the context of the Western musical tradition, the term polyphony is usually used to refer to music of the late Middle Ages and Renaissance.And I happen to like the British band Renaissance 
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Nicely done.
A very "modern" sounding track. Well mixed.
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Steve, very cinematic and cool. This would make a great soundtrack for a movie sequence. All of your instruments sound great and have their own place in the mix, which is very clean. Wouldn't worry about your tempo. Bassist have better timing than drummers eight days a week. (Kidding, drummers!) Ha!
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Nicely done.
A very "modern" sounding track. Well mixed.
fj Hey thanks Floyd! I always appreciate your feedback. As for the mix, I tried to apply your advice from the last one you commented on. 
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Steve,
Love the contemporary feel of this track. Also, an excellent mix.
Bob
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Steve, very cinematic and cool. This would make a great soundtrack for a movie sequence. All of your instruments sound great and have their own place in the mix, which is very clean. Wouldn't worry about your tempo. Bassist have better timing than drummers eight days a week. (Kidding, drummers!) Ha! Hey Ron, thanks for the listen and kind review. Your joking comment about drummers really gave me a good laugh 
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Cool groove; Love the drum track and the bass lines. Pretty melody as well.
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... This is a cover ...
... Because there is no BiaB content... Dear Mr. Thumber! You have just been reported to the forum administration for violating the rules. Next time you will be banned from the forum. This is the FINAL WARNING! ... ... [ hehehe ] I like your song, it has a nice relaxing, almost calming eastern vibe that I like. Despite your attempts to mess up the timing, it still sounds a bit MIDI-ish at some places. But it still has a lot of charm, so there's no real reason to change that.
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Cool groove; Love the drum track and the bass lines. Pretty melody as well. Hey Scott, I always appreciate your comments, thanks for listening. --Steve
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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... This is a cover ...
... Because there is no BiaB content... Dear Mr. Thumber! [ hehehe ] BD, you've got a great sense of humor, I see now why there are so many wrinkles in your brain(image) Glad you enjoyed it. --Steve
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Very nice Steve. I thought it was a very well done production and I really liked the bass throughout.
Brad
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This is cool, Steve. Sounds nice.
You were in fact successful in nearly copying the sound and all of the melodic notes of the original, which I listened to.
Mission accomplished there. Now, for the Elephant in the Room.
Any thoughts on the covers rule? Is there a reason you think it should only apply in certain cases--but not here? Like I would love to cover Hey Jude and stuff but they say you can't.
It is a genuine question Steve, and you know I love your stuff so don't take offense. I am not grandma. Just interested to know your thoughts. When they say "no covers," how do you read that, and do you think it does not apply here?. If so, why? Again, real question. If people start flooding the forum with covers, that would be a problem for PG. Well, if Steve can do it and get away with it...
See what I mean?
So, how do you see this?
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Steve,
You've captured a contemporary sound with this excellent tune! Nicely done!
Alan
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Very nice Steve. I thought it was a very well done production and I really liked the bass throughout.
Brad Thanks Brad. Glad you enjoyed it.
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This is cool, Steve. Sounds nice.
You were in fact successful in nearly copying the sound and all of the melodic notes of the original, which I listened to.
Mission accomplished there. Now, for the Elephant in the Room. David, thanks for the listen and review. You are right. I failed to read the guidelines. Any idea of the logic behind the no-covers rule?
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Steve,
You've captured a contemporary sound with this excellent tune! Nicely done!
Alan Many thanks Alan. I appreciate the listen and feedback.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Steve,
That's a great cover - very nicely done. Love the mix on this as well.
Bob
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Bass,
To answer your question:
It is a violation of copyright law.
Everyone does on it YouTube though and not quite sure how they get away with it actually....
But PG wants to abide by the letter of the law and it is their right to ask or even demand this. It is the law and they own the website.
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Bass,
To answer your question:
It is a violation of copyright law.
Everyone does on it YouTube though and not quite sure how they get away with it actually....
But PG wants to abide by the letter of the law and it is their right to ask or even demand this. It is the law and they own the website. On YouTube, it's easy: you mark that it's a cover version and indicate the copyright owners (if YouTube doesn't do that automatically), and your video will be demonetized and the owner will be paid for each playback. Or, with some labels/artists, your video gets blocked. I'm not sure if linking to a cover (we have to do this here because PG doesn't host music) is against any law at all.
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B.D.,
Jeez-Louise, it is a violation, even if it only violates PG Music's policy. Only if it is THEIR RULE.
Why?
Because this is THEIR WEBSITE.
Because they OWN IT. It is not YOUR WEBSITE. It is THEIR website.
So, they get to say what the rules are, and not anyone else.
The User Showcase is an area where users of PG Music products (e.g. Band-in-a-Box or RealBand) can post links to their original song compositions, for others to listen to and comment on.
The songs must be originals, no copyrighted or "cover" songs. You must have all of the rights to the songs.
That should be enough.
Do you own the rights, yes or no????
If the answer is no you can't post, because it is a copyright violation, but also, just because PG Music asks you not to. Even if the source material is Soundcloud, you are still hosting an incubator for copyright-violating songs and they do not want to be involved. Are you a Canadian or US lawyer?? No? Then perhaps it is best best to withhold your legal advice.
It is disrespectful not to comply and that should be reason enough.
Sorry for the rant, but Jeez. People make this so complicated and we have heard it so many times before.
If everyone started posting covers just because someone thought the rule did not apply to them, then PG WOULD have to offer final warnings. They would have no recourse.
How can that be so hard to understand???
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I sent this to the moderator.
If this post is a violation of the no-covers rule then please delete this post.
I see no way for me to delete it myself.
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Jeez-Louise, it is a violation, even if it only violates PG Music's policy. Only if it is THEIR RULE. David, I never questioned their rule. At all. It's their site. I just wonder why there's this rule to begin with.
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I just wonder why there's this rule to begin with. This was my bad as I failed to read the rules. That said, I too wonder what the spitit and intent of this rule is. I also wonder what the legal definition of a "cover" is. This is a big subject and may need a separate thread to even partially address.
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Sorry for my rant and maybe PG should address this in a thread. If a moderator is reading this, maybe they will do exactly that.
A "cover" is pretty simple. You are performing a version of a song written by someone else, who more than likely has registered this song with their PRO (BMI, ASCAP, etc.) and has filed for copyright. You do not own the song or control anything, they do. You cannot record your own version and post it online unless you pay the license fee. (If it is a YouTube of a live performance that is a mechanical license, but everyone who is posting songs needs to read the laws in their country, and the countries hosting platforms where they are posting. There is a lot to know.)
In the United States, at least one PRO has bounty hunters combing through bars and nightclubs and restaurants with open mics to see if anyone is playing a cover song of a BMI artist (let's say Neil Young, I don't know if he's BMI or ASCAP) and if they are and the club doesn't have a blanket license from Neil Young's PRO, they can get (and have gotten) fined many thousands of dollars PER INCIDENT. Enough to put the bar out of business. That's why bars freak out if you start playing a cover song and they don't have that license. They will yell at you and throw you out. They can't afford it. Those bounty hunters get paid on commission and they are as aggressive as flies.
Now, again, unless you are a lawyer, you should not make random assumptions about the reasons for the PG rule; you know they have lawyers they have consulted on numerous topics, including this website, and you have to know there is a solid legal reason for every request they make.
It is the same reason you can't legitimately buy a BIAB file of a popular song with the melody line midi in there. That melody line is under copyright protection. It is against the law. People are starting to crack down on free midi files more and more by the way, and that is why you see them less and less, unless you buy them.
Copyright law violations are not a joke.
Hope that helps.
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See reply to Thumper above.
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