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A new one. well, kind of. This started well over a year ago and kinda sat, untouched for most of the time. This was sent to me as a rough draft by my cowriter and friend, Brad. Neither one of us really worked on it. Then, a couple of weeks ago, a simple change of direction made it all make sense. This is Alt-country, kinda like Stapleton. While this is a kind of finished version, another friend and collaborator I've worked with in Atlanta is working on redoing the vocal track. Currently, this has a synth vocal. So, put it on your favorite listening system and turn it up. The Band: Drums Modern Country Real Drums Bass : 1825 B3 2692 Slide 1339 I'm playing : Piano: Addictive keys & All Guitars, Tele with the Quilter and Spark Liar LIAR It's hard for me to say the right things My pride don't let me give up the reins I lie, oh I'm a liar She cries and asks me, are you alright? Try to tell her that I love her but I get tongue-tied I lie, yeah I'm a liar Don't twist my words, don't get me wrong I'm faithful, I'm honest as the day is long I lie, oh I'm a liar Chorus I'ma lie'er down in the moonlight Draw the curtains and I hold her tight And I hope, I hope to God she knows I'd be lost without her, couldn't even breathe Like a 4-wheel drive without a key And in her arms' where I feel most alive So that's where I lie Verse 2 In the depths of my soul, there's a fear That if I open up, she'll disappear I lie, oh I'm a liar But deep down I know I need to change Break these chains, let the truth rearrange I lie, yeah I'm a liar Don't wanna lose her, can't bear the thought Gotta find the courage, show her what I've got I lie, oh I'm a liar Bridge But every lie I tell, it eats me inside I'm tired of living in this disguise I'll break free from this web of deceit And show her the love that's always been beneath Chorus I'ma lie'er down in the moonlight Draw the curtains and I hold her tight And I hope, I hope to God she knows I'd be lost without her, couldn't even breathe Like a 4-wheel drive without a key And in her arms' where I feel most alive So that's where I lie Outro (Where I lie) (That's where I lie) Yeah, that's where I lie Music & Lyrics Copyright 2025 Herb Hartley/ Brad Hunnings
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Herb,
That's some great country... That synth vocal is really excellent.
Love the arrangement and mix as well. Everything about this works so well.
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Herb and Brad, this is Nashville Country at it absolute finest!
I never knew that was a synth vocal - outstanding work on that as it does sound "organic".
Great arrangement and backing band
Super mix
Loved it
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That is a very good write on every level.
The backing band provides the perfect platform for a song that has some memorable lines (e.g. "like a 4wd without a key")
I liked the way the other instruments fell away at about 2:42 leaving the piano to carry the load.
The synth vocal is the most realistic I've heard so far.
Well done.
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Hi, Herb. Excellent job on this - love the arrangement and the guitars. Nice twist with the "liar" idea. The synth vocal is very good, but I think a real vocal will really push this over the top - and it's already really, really good. One nit, but I'm sure it's only me: the line "Like a 4-wheel drive without a key" feels out of place, like it was inserted to remind the listener it's a country song. As if we hadn't figured that out already.  And you're right - it sounds best loud. 
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Echo all the positives here..I’m amazed at the quality folks are getting out of synth voices—esp this with the CW twang—I’d love to know what tools you used. Excellent composition and top-notch production. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
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Good write. The vocal sounds great so your friend in Atlanta has his work cut out, and I can't wait to hear it. This one sounds like something from Marshall Tucker. No lie. Love that guitar work. Excellent lyrics too.
"I'd be lost without her, couldn't even breathe
Like a 4-wheel drive without a key"
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When AI voices sound this good, it's scary. It'll be interesting to hear the version with your friend's track. It's a really powerful song. Love the band and melody.
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This is really nice song, and it sounds GREAT! Those guitars are really nicely played and placed in the mix. If that's a BiaB slide, it's the best use I've heard.
I'd HATE to be a 2nd tier country studio vocalist right now, listening to AI CRUSHING every country vocal sub-genre, and wondering how I'm going to make the mortgage...
Super job, Herb! Looking forward to the human vocalist.
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Herb,
That's some great country... That synth vocal is really excellent.
Love the arrangement and mix as well. Everything about this works so well.
Bob Thanks Bob. AI/synth vocals are really amazing.
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Herb and Brad, this is Nashville Country at it absolute finest!
I never knew that was a synth vocal - outstanding work on that as it does sound "organic".
Great arrangement and backing band
Super mix
Loved it This is my second song collaboration with Brad. The first one was a song called Too Soon. He's a great writer and easy to work with.
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Great vocals, instrumentation and production. Had me from the start.
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That is a very good write on every level.
The backing band provides the perfect platform for a song that has some memorable lines (e.g. "like a 4wd without a key")
I liked the way the other instruments fell away at about 2:42 leaving the piano to carry the load.
The synth vocal is the most realistic I've heard so far.
Well done. Thank you. I do like to use dynamics as you mentioned. It takes a little bit of work to make them happen smoothly, but I think it's worth it and it really adds to the experience of listening to the song. The AI/Synth voices are really coming along quickly.
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Hi, Herb. Excellent job on this - love the arrangement and the guitars. Nice twist with the "liar" idea. The synth vocal is very good, but I think a real vocal will really push this over the top - and it's already really, really good. One nit, but I'm sure it's only me: the line "Like a 4-wheel drive without a key" feels out of place, like it was inserted to remind the listener it's a country song. As if we hadn't figured that out already. And you're right - it sounds best loud. Man, thanks....Those plays on words are really cool, you know every country song has to give a nod the pickup trucks. We did it without actually saying "pickup".
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Herb...sounds radio ready to me....great mix...the guitar work is crazy good...if you can find a singer in Atlanta or anywhere else that can do what the AI did you need to become his agent...five stars!!
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Echo all the positives here..I’m amazed at the quality folks are getting out of synth voices—esp this with the CW twang—I’d love to know what tools you used. Excellent composition and top-notch production. I thoroughly enjoyed it! Many thanks for listening. This is done with live tracks and real tracks. The voice is an AI synth. Mixed in Sonar.
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Good write. The vocal sounds great so your friend in Atlanta has his work cut out, and I can't wait to hear it. This one sounds like something from Marshall Tucker. No lie. Love that guitar work. Excellent lyrics too.
"I'd be lost without her, couldn't even breathe
Like a 4-wheel drive without a key"
Excellent pro production. Thanks Marty. Yeah, when he hear it he admitted to being a little concerned that he wouldn't be able to get that quality. I told him don't sweat, he's got this. Thanks again
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When AI voices sound this good, it's scary. It'll be interesting to hear the version with your friend's track. It's a really powerful song. Love the band and melody. Thanks for listening. It seems that a lot of people are against using AI voices. However, they are a godsend to people who can't sing or sing in foreign accents or just want something different. My friend is a little bit intimidated by the high bar but it should be interesting to hear his version. I'm in agreement. This is a good song.
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This is really nice song, and it sounds GREAT! Those guitars are really nicely played and placed in the mix. If that's a BiaB slide, it's the best use I've heard.
I'd HATE to be a 2nd tier country studio vocalist right now, listening to AI CRUSHING every country vocal sub-genre, and wondering how I'm going to make the mortgage...
Super job, Herb! Looking forward to the human vocalist. I was pleased with the slide. I had played a solo fill that worked well but I didn't want the same old typical guitar solo. This was a real track. I only had to edit a few notes here and there. The phrasing was spot on. I absolutely agree. All those folks on fiver and other sites are hurting. I was one of the artists one one of the big custom song sites. I had a fair amount of work coming in and when AI blew up a few years ago and people could make their own song in 30 seconds for a few dollars, work from the site stopped dead in the water. Why pay around one hundred dollars, wait a week for the song when AI could deliver it in a minute? I suspect those studio singers are feeling the pinch now. Thanks for listening and taking the time to comment
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Great vocals, instrumentation and production. Had me from the start. I'm glad you liked it. Thanks
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Herb...sounds radio ready to me....great mix...the guitar work is crazy good...if you can find a singer in Atlanta or anywhere else that can do what the AI did you need to become his agent...five stars!! Herb...sounds radio ready to me....great mix...the guitar work is crazy good...if you can find a singer in Atlanta or anywhere else that can do what the AI did you need to become his agent...five stars!! Thanks for the compliments on the song. My friend is a good singer and we'll see how he does. He's admitted it's a high bar he has to deal with. We've actually collaborated on a few things before. He's capable and a good musician as well
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This sounds like it has significant commercial potential. What a fantastic song and production! I love your guitar sound. I wouldn't have known this was a synth. I would like to hear this again when you get the human vocal.
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The vocal blew me away. What synth program are you using, you didn't mention it. I'm only familiar with Synth V and Suno, are there others? Great job.
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Hi Herb,
This is gret stuff - wonderful guitar playing - very enjoyable.
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This sounds like it has significant commercial potential. What a fantastic song and production! I love your guitar sound. I wouldn't have known this was a synth. I would like to hear this again when you get the human vocal. Thanks . We're hoping it does too. Currently I have a friend recording a live vocal. As soon as he gets it tracked I'll mix it and post the new version
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Wow! This is a great song Herb, the (Suno?) vocal is spot on as is the mix and band. I totally get the Stapleton ref, but I can also hear some early Travis Tritt in there lol.
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The vocal blew me away. What synth program are you using, you didn't mention it. I'm only familiar with Synth V and Suno, are there others? Great job. Thanks. The synth vox are amazing. Yes there are quite a few other options now. I'll tell you this, it's not Suno and it's not synth V because neither one have voices that solid. 😉
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Hi Herb,
This is gret stuff - wonderful guitar playing - very enjoyable.
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Wow! This is a great song Herb, the (Suno?) vocal is spot on as is the mix and band. I totally get the Stapleton ref, but I can also hear some early Travis Tritt in there lol.
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Pete Thanks..... That is not Suno. I haven't been using Suno for quite a while now. It was getting rather boring and always giving me the same thing or lyrics that required extensive editing to get something decent
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Liar: New (final) mix with new singer. I decided to amend it to this post rather than a new post, so only folks who are keenly interested will find it. Unfortunately, my singer bailed saying he had recorded a few tracks but wasn't satisfied with his attempts. I had a backup plan. It's done. Liar (new version) Questions or comments are appreciated.
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That is nicely put together.
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Good ole "hat act" country.
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Herb,
I haven’t scrolled through all the comments below, so I’m not sure whether I’m listening to the synth vocal or not. But if so, it’s wonderfully done, and it fits the song perfect. I’m not sure I’d change a thing at this point. The song itself is killer country, accentuated by an awesome write. This is outstanding!!
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That is nicely put together. I really appreciate your opinion. Thanks for dropping in and commenting.
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Good ole "hat act" country.
Well done,
J&B Old hat, new hat, no hat. I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for listening
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Herb,
I haven’t scrolled through all the comments below, so I’m not sure whether I’m listening to the synth vocal or not. But if so, it’s wonderfully done, and it fits the song perfect. I’m not sure I’d change a thing at this point. The song itself is killer country, accentuated by an awesome write. This is outstanding!!
Deej Unfortunately, the forum disables editing after a certain number of days. I guess I can always change the song in my box account with a new upload but sometimes I just want to keep the original. So if you listened to the link in the original post, you need to look further down...near the bottom of page 2 for the most recent version. The vocal on the most recent version is still an AI voice from audiomee. They are superior in many respects from the synth V voices. Thanks for listening. Glad you liked it
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Strong and clever lyrics around the subject. Cool guitars, everything perfectly mixed. Amazing vocals, sounds like a real singer to me, great work even though I don't know who has done the biggest work Just thinking that this has to be a new hit from a well-known band, a number one song on any country radio station. Janne
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Great collab guys. Love this. You two really know your country.
This is the real deal. Can't wait to hear any other versions. Keep me posted on the progress on this one. Very exciting and lots of promise on this one.
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Great collab guys. Love this. You two really know your country.
This is the real deal. Can't wait to hear any other versions. Keep me posted on the progress on this one. Very exciting and lots of promise on this one. Thanks for listening David. The only other versions are the original song idea sketch from Brad and an early BB attempt.
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Great tune, Herb, way better than most I hear on the streaming services! One of the best songs I've heard in a long time.
Very professional sounding, from the guitars and B3 to the strong synth vocals. Excellent lyrics, too.
You really know how to write 'em, and produce 'em!
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Strong and clever lyrics around the subject. Cool guitars, everything perfectly mixed. Amazing vocals, sounds like a real singer to me, great work even though I don't know who has done the biggest work Just thinking that this has to be a new hit from a well-known band, a number one song on any country radio station. Janne Thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to comment on the music.
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Great tune, Herb, way better than most I hear on the streaming services! One of the best songs I've heard in a long time.
Very professional sounding, from the guitars and B3 to the strong synth vocals. Excellent lyrics, too.
You really know how to write 'em, and produce 'em! Thanks BobL. Ain't band in a box a great production tool? I don't know how I'd be able to do what I do without it. Thanks again for listening 🎧.
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