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Young people like to listen to songs are basically rap, dance music, dancing feeling. One of the things about this music is that it doesn't use a lot of chords, it's a lot of repetition, it's a simple melody, it's more rhythmic.
BIAB is an auto-accompaniment software that focuses more on chord progressions and chord changes. BIAB is great when it comes to pop songs. I can quickly complete the accompaniment of many songs using BIAB. As long as I know what the chord progression is. BIAB can be very fast, perfect complete automatic accompaniment.
However, a lot of modern songs, especially songs that young people like, have only one chord, two chord, four chord.
I think that's one reason.
Especially with rap songs, if there are too many chord changes, too fast, it's not suitable for rap.
So it's not that BIAB isn't for young people. It's that BIAB doesn't work for songs with simple chords. Is that OK with you?
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As a cowboy chord guitarist BIAB works fine with 3 chord songs. And as an example Dance the night away by the Mavericks only uses 2 - E and B7.
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You speak of too narrow a demographic amongst young folk. Yes, the charts are dominated by simple songs but that doesn't, necessarily reflect what happens to be on playlists and at home. BIAB can do one & two chords well enough. The music that you're referring too doesn't actually require much on the source side as manipulation is the main game.
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Who appointed you the spokesman for "young people?"
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Assuming the premise is correct, which I wouldn't dare to claim, I would wonder how much has to do with music education?
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Assuming the premise is correct, which I wouldn't dare to claim, I would wonder how much has to do with music education? Or lack thereof...
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Who appointed you the spokesman for "young people?" There were a lot of posts about how BIAB didn't seem to fit in with modern music. I want more modern, young people's music.
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Assuming the premise is correct, which I wouldn't dare to claim, I would wonder how much has to do with music education? It does have something to do with music education. Most music is for ordinary people. By the way, is there an example of using 1 or 2 chords in BIAB? Let me open it up. I can't find it.
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As a cowboy chord guitarist BIAB works fine with 3 chord songs. And as an example Dance the night away by the Mavericks only uses 2 - E and B7. It does have something to do with music education. Most music is for ordinary people. By the way, is there an example of using 1 or 2 chords in BIAB? Let me open it up. I can't find it.
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Who appointed you the spokesman for "young people?" There were a lot of posts about how BIAB didn't seem to fit in with modern music. I want more modern, young people's music. By other self-appointed spokespeople for "young people." I get a real kick out of people who are probably older than I am trying to tell everyone what "young people" do and don't like as if said youth are a monolithic bloc who all think and act alike and all have the same tastes. By the way, is there an example of using 1 or 2 chords in BIAB? Let me open it up. I can't find it.
Why don't you make one?
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By other self-appointed spokespeople for "young people."
I'm not sure I know what you mean. But one thing I know for sure. First: I'm not denying that BIAB is great. Second: if BIAB has more new music genres. For example, young people like dance music, rap, which can't be a bad thing. It only makes BIAB more popular. I thought of a joke. Someone is lost and asking for directions. Can you tell me the way to the bar? Answer: Why don't you build your own road? Just kidding. I'm just checking in to see if there are any examples, if anybody happens to know of a musical pattern in BIAB that looks like this and the chord progression looks like this, let me know. If I don't know, I'll find another way. Finally, thank you.
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Why do you need a demo? Most folk type their own progressions into the program. How about you create one and offer it to PG? You've moved on from the majority of your, "Where's the door?" posts, and your halting English is much better, but I request, quite sincerely, that you read before posting. I'm certain the inanity will become apparent with a little reflection. It's okay to gnaw on the same bone for a while but other dogs are less likely to have a taste if you keep at it too long.
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Isn't there a lot of styling inside the BIAB? Each style you can also open this style and look at the chords inside.
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I have quite a few EDM styles for sale on my website. I also have an entire e-disc of EDM styles.
They aren't my best-selling styles, but aren't all that bad either.
Each niche, whether it's reggae, bossa, country, rock, swing, and so on has its audience. Some have bigger audiences than others.
I have no idea how old the majority of my customers are. They go to my site, buy the software, the shopping cart tells them how to download, and I never meet them. Most of them come back for sooner or later, so I guess they like what they got.
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By the way, is there an example of using 1 or 2 chords in BIAB? Let me open it up. I can't find it. Many songwriters have used one or two chords. Many other songwriters have used many more than that. At this stage, and with your continued learning, extensive program experience and significant research obtained from fellow users, you should not need BiaB to deliver an example to do this for you. You should write your own 1 or 2 chord song and post it on these forums. Surely that is a better way to explore. Don't just listen to others, experiment for yourself. There are no 'right' and 'wrong' ways. Just do it.
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FWIW - I have been following this thread and think it breaks down into two things:
1-With RealTracks you are limited to what BiaB gives you. That is great for jazz, country,blues, etc with a few snippets of other genres.
2- With MIDI there are no limitations. With good MIDI sounds, a little imagination, and a little MIDI knowledge you can create any genre you want. Note's BiaB styles proves that. BiaB MIDI styles are not set in stone. They can be increased or decrease in tempo with no artifacts. You can change instrument sounds plus a lot of other control over the styles.
I believe that I am in the minority with my song using virtually all MIDI, thus my bias thoughts!
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John Fogarty of Creedence Clearwater Revival replied to the criticism that they were a three chord band by saying they would be a two chord band if they could.
Your basic premise that BIAB uses too many chords is not true. It uses as many as you type in. I suspect that rather than create your own you are just opening demos. Or maybe importing sequences from Scaler you have referred to in the past. Are you creating any of your own music at all?
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Are you creating any of your own music at all? Good question, inquiring minds need to know.
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I have a feeling he might be using the word "chord" to mean "melodic phrase" as he's talking about simple repetition.
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I have the feeling he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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