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Hi all,
This thought went through my head just after I ordered the upgrade this year, Just how many hardened biab'ers they are in the world. Well to be a die hard biab'er I'd say you would need to have the ultraPlus pak and upgrade most years?
I thought maybe 250-300 though I know we will never know for definate.
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I hope your guesstimate is quite low, or missing some zeroes or something.
If they made $100 on each upgrade (I doubt it) your guess would pay one persons salary for part of the year.
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Yes I know what you mean Rharv, but the thing is PG has a lot of related music programs it sells, and I for one am basing my guess on how many people frequent the forum, and not considering any of the other versions of the program just the ultraPlus pak and upwards.
I'm also taking into consideration that iits mainly aimed at older people i.e people in their 40's and upwards, who I feel will post questions about it on the forum from time to time, giving us an idea of the biab user base.
Martin
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I still hope you are low. I'm thinking in the thousands, those realtracks cost money to produce!
Check how many forum members there are... (user list at top of page)
16371 Registered User(s).
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rharv,
I agree with you. I also think there are a lot users who aren't forum members.
I used BIAB for years and upgraded every year before ever even looking at the forums, much less joining it.
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Bob, I'm with you. I have been purchasing BIAB since version 5 (approx 1991) and PT since version 3.5. Although I lurked about the forum off and on, I never joined until a few years ago and never contributed until the past year, I would think there are quite a number of "us" out there. Now that I am not working away so much, I find that I am checking the forum almost as much as my regular emails. On the business side I feel PG Music is one of the most customer orientated companies that I have dealt with, and wish them continued growth. DennisD
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From the User List, the most recent registrant was #35,212.
Of course, some of those are inactive.
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My number came from bottom left of forum home page (registered users)
Make your sound your own!
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Biab is also used in schools wich would account for multiple sales
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Well, I'm one! 
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My number came from bottom left of forum home page (registered users)
Yes, thanks, I saw that. I wonder why half of all who registered are not shown?
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There was a forum change recently. Maybe some purging was done, but some lists were kept (?)
Funny it's that close to half, eh? I noticed that.
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And of course, you remember when this version of the forum was created in the summer of 2000, and past forum users had to re-register as new. I wonder how many users were 'lost' then.
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Yeah, I remember that.
That's when I got assigned user number 30 something. Makes it sound like I'm old
get off my lawn ya whippersnappers
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I know the day I ordered my Update 2011, I called the next day for my tracking number and they said they were backed up for a day as they had over 500 Hard Drives to ship out... So go figure... 500 in a day on a good day and there are many days still left before December 31... Hmmm. Good on them!
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There are 175 schools in the local school board, and every music teacher has access to Band in a Box. I don't think a lot of them use it, but I might be surprised. The 4 teachers I know all say they've done some stuff with it but are not really able to use it. What they really need is a fakebook of Canadianna folk music both French and English and a tutorial.
Oh well..
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Hi all,
This thought went through my head just after I ordered the upgrade this year, Just how many hardened biab'ers they are in the world. Well to be a die hard biab'er I'd say you would need to have the ultraPlus pak and upgrade most years?
I thought maybe 250-300 though I know we will never know for definate.
Martin
maybe this is one for PG to answer.If they are struggling(I dont think so) then we all should do more individually to promote this fantastic softaware Ive recommended it to a few of my musician friends but so far none have come on board yet mind you some of them are "skint"  Frankie
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I love that word "SKINT" LOL... as well as "DAFT", "KNACKERED" "GAGGING" (like in: I am gagging for 2011 Band in a Box, LOL)
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die hard
–noun
1. a person who vigorously maintains or defends a seemingly hopeless position, outdated attitude, lost cause, or the like.
That's me, Wayne,
(My wife uses a much different word for me)
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Surly, you don't mean BIAB is hopeless. outdated, or a lost cause eh? LOL... Because this diehard here won't play his guitar unless BIAB is playing along.... LOL!
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