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Does anyone know if it's possible to get licenses for music for a short run of non profit, not for sale?
CDBABY used to provide a service, or at least advertise one, called limelight but they don't seem to offer that service anymore.
Something less than paying Harry Fox for a thousand?
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limelight was like 15 bucks a song and nine cents per copy.
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Not really.
The copyright owner doesn't care if you sell the song or give it away... they want a royalty for each and every one of them that you sell or give away. The license allows you to do either with a specific number of copies.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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I understand that Hacker.
I'm just wondering if there is an agency other than Harry Fox that would allow you to pay the feee plus the 9 cents per copy for a number less than a thousand.
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Last edited by Westside Steve; 05/15/15 05:45 AM.
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You don't have to pay Harry Fox $1000 for a mechanical license. Harry Fox has Songfile (like Limelight, which is no longer available and was set up as an alternative to Harry Fox's Songfile, cost about the same as Songfile). Songfile can be used to license a minimum of 25 song units up to a maximum of 2,500 units. The smallest unit you can license (for CDs, cassettes, or vinyl) is 25, so assuming your song is less than 5 minutes, you'll need to spend the $16 per song processing fee (which if you license 6 or more drops to $14 per song, as long as all the songs are ordered in the same transaction). Then it's 9.1 cents per song unit (so one song on 100 CDs would be 100 units; 10 songs on 100 CDs would be 1000 units). They also have a search feature to make sure the song you want is covered. So 25 units of one song is going to cost you $18.28. If you plan on releasing 100 CDs with 10 songs on each CD, it's going to cost you $16 for the first five songs, then $14 for the 2nd five songs, plus 9.1 cents per song unit (# songs per cd times # of CDs - 1000 units in this case), for a total of $241 for licensing. Of course, you'll have to add your CD creation costs. If you use something like Kunaki.com (which I've been pleased with) to make your CDs (which includes artwork and jewel case), it will cost you $160.70 to produce 100 CDs. That's about $400 total outlay for 100 CDs (or $4 per CD), which includes licensing and manufacturing. Not quite $1000. Here is the Songfile FAQ, which answers most questions about it.
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John. I didn't say $1000, at least I didn't mean that I meant 1000 copies. When I do my commercial cd on which I may have 3 or so songs I did not write so I pay licensing for 1000 copies. I didn't know you could just pay for as many as you are making. That's just what I wanted to know!
Thank you sir!
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Sorry I misinterpreted your original post, Steve. I missed the "paying for a thousand"; my brain read "paying a thousand".
But it looks like problem solved. You can get as few as 25. If you do fewer than 25, you still have to pay for 25, but it's a lot easier and more affordable than it used to be. Harry Fox, I think, finally realized that there are folks out there self-producing small quantities, and I suspect were blowing off the licensing because it was prohibitive. This allows small producers to affordably license the music they use, and provide the artists with their royalties.
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