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I play in a classic rock band and am forming a duo so for the most part I am doing classic rock with some newer stuff thrown in. My band doesn't have much time for practice as a unit so when I want to add song I can set up backing tracks and send them a demo to practice then when we are at a gig we can go over the song at sound check and add it to the list that night. Since the band isn't getting as many gigs I wanted to do the duo for my own entertainment. So while I am adding many of the songs I do with the band, I am also putting in songs that "I" like. There is a bit of freedom in not having to worry about whether you are able to dance to a song or not. The other thing is since I went with a tablet for song sets I find that with a chord chart and backing tracks I can really expand my repertoire. The duo thing will be a new thing for me but I have played in a band for 40 years and we have always found danceable songs that were hits to be safest for our audiences.
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I play in a classic rock band and am forming a duo so for the most part I am doing classic rock with some newer stuff thrown in. My band doesn't have much time for practice as a unit so when I want to add song I can set up backing tracks and send them a demo to practice then when we are at a gig we can go over the song at sound check and add it to the list that night. Since the band isn't getting as many gigs I wanted to do the duo for my own entertainment. So while I am adding many of the songs I do with the band, I am also putting in songs that "I" like. There is a bit of freedom in not having to worry about whether you are able to dance to a song or not. The other thing is since I went with a tablet for song sets I find that with a chord chart and backing tracks I can really expand my repertoire. The duo thing will be a new thing for me but I have played in a band for 40 years and we have always found danceable songs that were hits to be safest for our audiences. There was a time after one of my bands broke up that I continued to play some of the booked gigs as a solo performer. Just me and my acoustic guitar. It actually worked out well. At the time, there was no such thing as having a home studio since the gear was either not yet available or cost prohibitive. BB has changed that. In today's environment, it would be so simple to put together a good sounding solo act. But doing studio work has ruined me. I'm not interested in being out in clubs after midnight..... or the drive home at 3am... no, I don't miss that. But yes, there was an immediate freedom that came in being able to play anything I wanted. And most of the clubs I was gigging were not dance clubs so that aspect didn't enter into consideration when making up set lists.
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I went duo in 1985, and won't go back.
Oh, I miss playing in a bigger band but I don't miss (1) the band member that gets too high to play well (2) the band member who is more interested in the opposite sex than the music (3) the band member who shows up late or takes long breaks (4) the band member who doesn't learn his/her parts before rehearsal.
I do like (1) the better money per person of a duo (2) having a partner with the same work ethics as me (3) the uncomplicated juggling of more than 2 lives with the music business.
I do miss the spontaneity of other musicians in the group improvisation sense (my backing tracks never surprise me), the flexibility of everything live, and more people to help schlep the PA set. But all in all I'd rather do the duo.
Someone mentioned one-chord songs. They are usually difficult to cover, because they have strong identifiable signature licks and kicks, which BiaB by it's nature doesn't do, that's where a good MIDI sequencer comes in.
I find improvising a long solo over a one chord song much more challenging than chord changes. It's more work to keep it from getting boring without chord changes to play around with. And playing with backing tracks, you need a good cue to tell you when the solo is over, because if you get distracted, you might lose the count or the feel of when the solo is over.
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Oh, I miss playing in a bigger band but I don't miss (1) the band member that gets too high to play well (2) the band member who is more interested in the opposite sex than the music (3) the band member who shows up late or takes long breaks (4) the band member who doesn't learn his/her parts before rehearsal.
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I have had the same problems. I will add one more that I had problems with: (5) the band member's spouse/girl-boy friend who thinks he/she can run the band.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
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Since our band stopped doing bars and really play very limited gigs the band thing has been more enjoyable......we get along pretty well. The core 3 musicians have been together over 20 years.....we have gone thru our share of 4th musicians and also played as a trio when needed. My fiance is now the 4th and that has proven to be an incentive to continue. She was a chorus teacher and piano teacher for about 20 years. She was a concert level pianist but now has shoulder trouble so she has to limit her playing a bit....I never realized how physically demanding playing piano can be as I am just a hack guitar player.
I am looking forward to the duo thing even if it is just so I never have to play "Louie Louie" again....
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Another source for signature licks and runs if you don't play a particular instrument or you are exclusively a rhythm guitar player and don't play any lead - and don't have easy access to one, are MP3 quality level audio clips from Internet sources such as YouTube.
As BIAB has shown us, wma or mp3 quality level files are sufficient for use at live gigs.
Searching for song specific lessons and tutorials on a site such as YouTube, one can usually quickly find several lessons that are high quality tutorials. Somewhere during such a lesson, the teacher will play specific riffs/runs/chord progressions at the proper tempo and in the key of the original recording very accurately and isolated from any other tracks playing. The audio of these lessons can easily be downloaded to your computer, imported into your DAW and mixed with your BIAB generated tracks to create a very precise, authentic and accurate cover of the song.
As an example there is a YouTube tutorial by Don Felder, formally of the Eagles, of him teaching his licks, runs and fills for Hotel California.
He goes through the complete song so the audio can be cut into individual stems or as RB names them, scraps. One advantage of this particular video for me is that he has transposed the key to Am which is much better for may vocal range than the original key of Bm.
I don't play live gigs and only download stems from the internet for my own personal, educational use. I'm not a lawyer so I cannot make any recommendation to the legality of use of a tutorial clip or even a midi file for use in a commercial setting.
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I play in a classic rock band and am forming a duo so for the most part I am doing classic rock with some newer stuff thrown in. My band doesn't have much time for practice as a unit so when I want to add song I can set up backing tracks and send them a demo to practice then when we are at a gig we can go over the song at sound check and add it to the list that night. Since the band isn't getting as many gigs I wanted to do the duo for my own entertainment. So while I am adding many of the songs I do with the band, I am also putting in songs that "I" like. There is a bit of freedom in not having to worry about whether you are able to dance to a song or not. The other thing is since I went with a tablet for song sets I find that with a chord chart and backing tracks I can really expand my repertoire. The duo thing will be a new thing for me but I have played in a band for 40 years and we have always found danceable songs that were hits to be safest for our audiences. I don't want to hijack the thread, but I'm always interested in the gear other duos are using. Stuff like – what kind of amps/speakers/monitors, etc. Could you humor me and give me some details? Regards, Bob
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I have 2 sets of Alto powered speakers 15" and 10". I will probably use the 10" for the Duo. I use the 15" with a pair of Alto subs for the band. I have a Yamaha MG82cx mixer for the duo. We are using hot spot style monitors (I have been experimenting with in ear monitors which I may go to....still undecided on that). I plan on going direct in with everything no amps and use the monitors for stage sound....easier to control the sound.
My fiance has a Korg Krome keyboard and I use a Godin guitar with a Roland GR55. I have 2 TC Helicon Harmonizers so we can add thicker harmonies if needed. I have a 10" android tablet with Mobilesheets which allows me to set up chord charts and backing tracks.
We have just started working on the duo so we need more practice before going live.
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I have 2 sets of Alto powered speakers 15" and 10". I will probably use the 10" for the Duo. I use the 15" with a pair of Alto subs for the band. I have a Yamaha MG82cx mixer for the duo. We are using hot spot style monitors (I have been experimenting with in ear monitors which I may go to....still undecided on that). I plan on going direct in with everything no amps and use the monitors for stage sound....easier to control the sound.
My fiance has a Korg Krome keyboard and I use a Godin guitar with a Roland GR55. I have 2 TC Helicon Harmonizers so we can add thicker harmonies if needed. I have a 10" android tablet with Mobilesheets which allows me to set up chord charts and backing tracks.
We have just started working on the duo so we need more practice before going live. Sounds like a nice setup. The Altos get a lot of love from the SR guys. I'd love to go with powered boxes, but we've got a lot invested in the system we use. The places we play tend to get kinda loud, so we're using 2 Yammy 15's amd ywo Yammy 12's for monitors (and sometimes, we can't hear them!). I wish you luck with the duo. It's about the only format that gets any work these days! Regards, Bob
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TC Helicon vocal gear is just great. It's a steep learning curve at times, but I love my Voicelive 2 and I'm integrating more and more. I also love the TC Electric Nova multi guitar effects unit. They're both a bit old now. I guess if I was buying, I'd take a hard look at the Voicelive 3 Extreme especially for duos or solo acts.
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I have the Voice live touch that I use and an H1 that she uses. The VL Touch is a nice unit but real easy to mess up the settings live. The H1 is simple and almost bullet proof. She has a much better voice than me so the H1 works great for her. I think the TC Helicon are really great units.
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