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I bought BIAB 2016 in December. I loved the demos and thought the real tracks would be great to write and record with. Since then I have learned that pushes don't work too well. When I called PG, I was told they work in some styles and not in others. Does anyone have a list of the ones that don't work or the ones that do? No pushes makes for a dull song.
So I thought perhaps I could change the drums to midi and use a Hi-Q patch. That way I could use notation or piano roll to get pushes. Then I would record audio bass and guitars on top of that. No good on that either. I can't find Hi-Q patches for drums. And, when I get a midi patch for the drums, all I hear is cymbals.
I tried starting with a midi style and adding a couple of real instruments. No go there either.
I watched the videos. None of that worked. Frustrating.
So here is what I am looking for. I want to be able to make tracks that have some pushes and have some real tracks or high-quality drums. Anyone have any suggestions? Anybody else having these problems with 2016?
Thanks.
i5-3210 laptop. Win 10 Home. 2.5ghz, 64 bit. 6gb RAM. Focusrite Scarlet 2i2.
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Hi.
What level of experience do you have with BIAB? (I notice that you first joined the forum in 2011 but only refer to BIAB 2016.) Knowing this will help avoid covering material you are already aware of.
Regards,
Noel
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2BSolo, as far as I know, no such list exists.
Before you give up on Pushes, there are things to try. As Noel commented, we don't want to post a lot of info you already know. But quickly, are you aware you can go to Preferences, RealTracks and adjust the Push Velocity? It helps me to lower it.
It would also help if you could clarify what you mean by "pushes don't work too well". What is it you don't like? We might have a solution or workaround.
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Thanks for the reply. You folks are very considerate to help.
OK, here's what I mean by pushes don't work. I type them in but the drums (and everything else) still come in on the 1 beat instead of the and before the 1 beat. When I called PG to ask about it, their words were pushes work on some styles, not on others.
I checked the velocity of the pushes on Real Drums and found it was zero. So I increased it and that didn't help.I decreased it, didn't help.
I increased it on Real Tracks and it worked somewhat but in a way that didn't sound like a push. It was strange.
As far as my experience, I worked with midi tracks all the time before I got 2016. I did it enough to put together a one our show of standards. I worked with the notation and the piano roll to make changes when I needed to. I even found a way to save them, something I was told I couldn't do.
If you have any ideas, please let me know. I really would prefer to use mostly Real Tracks and Real Drums. If I can't, I am going to have to figure out the answers about using midi and possibly buy more software that has better patches.
Thanks again.
2b
i5-3210 laptop. Win 10 Home. 2.5ghz, 64 bit. 6gb RAM. Focusrite Scarlet 2i2.
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I've used pushes in the past, but to be honest, I was never too thrilled with the results. It always seemed to make the music sound chunky. The best results I found was to push the instruments and keep the drums without any pushes. Most songs that I do don't need pushes, so I don't use that function very often. If you can find a way to do it with RealDrums, I think you'll be happier. I've used midi drums a lot in the past, but they don't compare to the sound of RealDrums (especially in the cymbal parts).
Rich
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