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Okay, here's what makes it Country. At 29 seconds he says "No-ow" with an Oklahoma accent. At 1:46 I hear about 6 plucks on banjo strings. And, the guitar in the video looks like a Telecaster. So, yeah, that's country music. Awesome! I think you may have been the only one to point to specific examples of how this is country. The 29 second part I'm still on the fence about, but I'm with you on eh banjo plucks!  GREAT job! I really should have listen to the video myself better! I was going off of what I heard while driving and didn't come up with those two!  Who's the guy with 2 first names trying to pass off a song with the hook line, "She was like, Oh my God. That's my favorite song" as country music? That just drives me crazy. Luke Bryan. I actually like that song and many of his. To me they are MUCH more country than this song is. Not old school country by a long shot, but has a fair amount of country still to it IMHO. Thanks again!...and GREAT ears!
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I have to say this has been a very civil conversation on a hot button topic for a lot of people! I'm impressed!
Overall, I wasn't looking to debate what country is or isn't. I feel I have a pretty good grasp of what sells, and what is "current." It was more in my one listen, I really couldn't find the country in this song. To me it sounds along the lines of something Maroon 5 would do. From phrasing, pacing, lyrics content/theme, instrumentation, production...I just wasn't finding ANY country.
I'm not a lump every song and artist from a genre together kind of person. To me, I see the similarities of a Jason Aldean and Luke Bryan. They have some of the same writers and musicians. I also see the differences. I feel that's what many seem to miss...except for their fans. I think that is in ANY type of music.
For work, I have to listen to A LOT of music that I may not care for...initially. I have found an appreciation for a lot of artists by HAVING to hear the differences. I'm not gifted in theory AT ALL, so I have to make up for it in "just listening."
I have a lot more I will say regarding some of the awesome comments and observations from others. Right now, the chiropractor is calling me in so that is what has to happen now.
Thanks for the great comments! I didn't think I would open the conversation it did. You all rock!...or whatever preference of music you have;)
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its true that all genres are in a state of continual adaptation to changing taste... but there are normally traits that define a genre and make it different from another genre.
The original question asked us to point to ANY part of the song that might have a common denominator with other songs in the country genre. The inclusion of a banjo part seems to be the only one
So in this case, I still say that (even accounting for the natural evolution of genres) this is less a "country song" than it is a "song" performed by a country artist.
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I think it's a good thing that new Country doesn't sound like the old stuff. All that jangle, twang and steel was gettin' old.  If people are buying it, more power to them. I agree with Bud. I think the real New Country is called Americana now. For me, I'll stick with Rock.  Merry Christmas! Regards, Bob
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this is less a "country song" than it is a "song" performed by a country artist. That about sums it up! That is enough to qualify it being on a country station. Now that I know the rules, I can get in the game
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Before replying I did a little research and found some sources of his influences from his site's bio. ( http://www.chasebryant.com/bio/ ) I also found a video that probably sounds more like what would be considered as contemporary country. Judge it yourself . ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f103D9c5OYk ) My humble conclusion... he considers himself a mainstream modern country artist while trying to get a cross-over pop hit with "Room to Breathe". BTW my searches did produce a country artist thats a lit more to my taste... a real beer joint country artist! Give him a listen. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foVnLIWSir0 ) Note the sign that outlines the sections of the song. Kind of cute.
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Well technically speaking, radio stations aside, the song has just joined this collage, not matter what you call it, or how young or old you might be. Axis of Awesome says it all. Long commercial but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQIt's called 4 chord pop people, play it on any station you want. Listen to it if you are two in the crib, 85 in the assisted living center. It is what it is and always will be. It's what people buy, whether you make fun of it, love it, or hate it They have been buying it before Elvis was out of high school.
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I do know they pulled in some heavy hitters for it. Ashley Gorely and the crew at combustion have done "pretty ok" for themselves! It's called 4 chord pop people, play it on any station you want. If only it was that simple...it has the potential to be played on any station they want As proof, I remember the Axis Of Awesome thing from a while back. Almost 31 Million views...that's 31,000,000 views...but how many songs have they sold? A lot of people willing to watch "for free." Gotta love 'em though. It's fun to see...at least I think so.
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You gotta remember the CMA show just featured Beyonce and the commie Dixie Chicks together.... so, you figure it out. Ha...no can do....I heard that too and don't get it either. Makes one wonder is she that much of an attention [*****] to just show up or did some suit within the CMA staff think it was great idea and actually invite her?! Back to it... Kinda made the show way back when Olivia Newton John's winning envelope oops sorry it was John Denver was set on fire by Charlie Rich look kinda tame now. LOL! HTL - Just sounds like a country singer sangin' a pop song in his country drawl voice to me. It is amazing to watch and hear country get more and more homogenized into the "sound" and beat that's in so many other genres now. But there's an old saying "everything old is new again" so when this fad is over who knows what will be next.
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There was a wonderful quote by Louis Armstrong:
"All music is folk music, I'aint never heard no horse sing a song!"
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"But" . . . it's "not new", you can hear this on any pop station in the world. So what? Really, who cares what they call country? Not me! If I like it I listen. If I do not like it I don't listen. If someone wants to listen to "real" country (whatever that is) head on over to Amazon or Spotify or wherever and you can grab enough to listen to for the rest of your life! Hey Three J's . . . I don't care either. Later,
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So, if it sounds good, has some element of something resembling Country, it MUST be Country! That's what I get from all of this. LOL Carry on... nothing to see here!
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From my point of view, in Germany we don't get to hear all the music from your side of the pond, when I listen to (mainstream) country music through the decades I'm able to detect the era just by the style of the music. (Mainstream) Country always reflected the current popular music styles. In many cases it was country just because the singer or bandleader wore a cowboy hat or cowboy boots. Yes, there are others where the steel guitar whines so hard or the banjo has a so dominant role that you couldn't sell this in any other market.
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Personally, I don't see what the big fuss is about.
Country.... pick your decade.... has never been "one kind of music". It has always been a wide, encompassing genre. It has had influences from jazz, bluegrass, rock, and everything else under the sun in it at one time or another.
To say that "real country" is Haggard, Jones, and Strait..... well I could agree with that assessment on a personal level, but in reality, it's just not so.
If you don't like "modern country", the simple solution..... don't listen to the radio. Dig out the old records and have fun.
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Personally, I don't see what the big fuss is about.
Country.... pick your decade.... has never been "one kind of music". It has always been a wide, encompassing genre. It has had influences from jazz, bluegrass, rock, and everything else under the sun in it at one time or another.
To say that "real country" is Haggard, Jones, and Strait..... well I could agree with that assessment on a personal level, but in reality, it's just not so.
If you don't like "modern country", the simple solution..... don't listen to the radio. Dig out the old records and have fun.
I couldn't agree more! Perfectly said. It's not like anyone makes you listen to the radio/specific station/cd/mp3...it's your choice. If it's not, call the authorities...you have MUCH bigger problems! That being said, my only point was, I couldn't find what would identify that as being a country song. Not upset. Not complaining. I was just curious. I do feel when you tune to a station to listen to a type of music, you have somewhat of an idea the type of sound you will hear. That the idea behind genres I feel. It helps you sort things. If you like a certain genre, you can find more of the same. If you dislike a genre you can avoid it. It's not a be-all-end all, but a simple reference. I'm fine with cross-over as well. This just happen to be a song that really didn't sound like the genre station it was on. To say there are others like it, I would disagree...again, just my opinion. There are some close, but there always seems to be that one or two identifiable things that make you go "oh! there it is!"...lol. I couldn't find it with this. So for me, there really isn't a fuss. I tried to start the thread by pointing that out. I'm not offended, upset...whatever you want to call it. Simply curious. Thanks again for all of the input! I keep think I will be able to give better responses to some of the great response we've gotten here. I just haven't had the time to really put them together as there are so many. I'm all for listen to what you like. If you don't like it, what are you listening to it? Life is simple for me that way.
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As proof, I remember the Axis Of Awesome thing from a while back. Almost 31 Million views...that's 31,000,000 views...but how many songs have they sold? A lot of people willing to watch "for free." Gotta love 'em though. It's fun to see...at least I think so.
If they have those videos monetized at even a 1/4 of a cent per view (and it's probably more than that) that's 7.75 million cents. Which is... a lot...
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As proof, I remember the Axis Of Awesome thing from a while back. Almost 31 Million views...that's 31,000,000 views...but how many songs have they sold? A lot of people willing to watch "for free." Gotta love 'em though. It's fun to see...at least I think so.
If they have those videos monetized at even a 1/4 of a cent per view (and it's probably more than that) that's 7.75 million cents. Which is... a lot... I figured someone would say that. And just shy of $80k is nothing to sneeze at by any means...but...it's still not airplay on a station (which was the point that was being made) or people willing to pay for it for that matter. There is a HUGE difference in that. Sure you can argue that people are paying with their time of sitting at the computer, but there is surely a difference between that and handing over your cash to enjoy something. I still love the video though
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As proof, I remember the Axis Of Awesome thing from a while back. Almost 31 Million views...that's 31,000,000 views...but how many songs have they sold? A lot of people willing to watch "for free." Gotta love 'em though. It's fun to see...at least I think so.
If they have those videos monetized at even a 1/4 of a cent per view (and it's probably more than that) that's 7.75 million cents. Which is... a lot... I figured someone would say that. And just shy of $80k is nothing to sneeze at by any means...but...it's still not airplay on a station (which was the point that was being made) or people willing to pay for it for that matter. There is a HUGE difference in that. Sure you can argue that people are paying with their time of sitting at the computer, but there is surely a difference between that and handing over your cash to enjoy something. I still love the video though You're very right! I guess the key these days is diverse revenue streams. $80K every year or so from popular YouTube vids, quadruple that every quarter with t-shirt sales, tours on top of everything, plus $14.31 per year with record sales
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but...it's still not airplay on a station or people willing to pay for it for that matter...Sure you can argue that people are paying with their time of sitting at the computer, but there is surely a difference between that and handing over your cash to enjoy something. "Airplay" is only one metric nowadays and, arguably, rapidly becoming a less important one. And people never paid for airplay listening...they "paid" by listening to ads just like those on Youtube pay by watching ads.
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