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And here we have a good example of the *French military practicing to protect themselves from an invader:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8MEVVU3bxM
And do you know how many gears a French tank has? It's only got 1 speed in forward. But it has 6 speeds in reverse!
Good thing for Europe that us gun toting Americans are always there to bail them out when the going gets tough! Maybe if they allowed their citizens to own guns, they might actually be able to use them instead of having to call on us "redneck cowboys" to save their a**es.
LOL.
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*Actually it's French-Canadian infantry using a French made anti-tank missle.
120,000 French soldiers were killed fighting the Germans in the beginning of WWII. That's hardly a nation of cowards.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Allan:
I'm sure you're a good guy and all, but isnt it kind of asinine to question the motives of a country that, without her help, an entire continent would've been summarily run over by Germany? A simple " thanks" would've been nice. I'm a Vet so yeah; It's a touchy subject for me.
Kristen: sadly, I agree with almost everything you said.
There was also the little matter of the Red Army. Half of the men in Russia were killed fighting Hitler. The Allies might have won anyway, but it would have taken years longer without the Russians.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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The purpose of the modern US military is to protect the interests of huge multi-national corporations and their wealthy CEOs and investors.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Gary,
Very well spoken.
Here in WV, we probably have one of the highest percentage rates of gun ownership in the USA. We also have one of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.
The vast majority of our violent crimes invlove drugs. Break in's are rare, especially if the homeowners are at home.
I guess the criminals don't like the idea of staring down a 12ga. shotgun or a .357 magnum. Those are 2 good reasons to mind your own business and leave other people and their families and property alone.
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WV also has a very low rate of polar bear attacks.
And the North Pole and surrounding areas have a very low rate of break ins, assault, burglary, rape, or other violent crimes. Your point is?
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I wonder if Trails, being adrift on his raft, far, far away from lan.... has also drifted away from reality?
France lost about 217,000 people in WWII, the U.S. lost about 417,000, the Japanese 2+ Million, the Chinese 2-3 million, the Germans over 5 million and the Soviets anywhere between 10 and 20 million people. However, the majority of the Soviet losses were in defense of their own country, and not until in 1945 did they move out of their country and into Germany.
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I'm blessed watching God do what He does best. I've had a few rough years, and I'm still not back to where I want to be, but I'm on the way and things are looking far better now than what they were!
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Goodness gracious! You miss a few posts and there's so much to catch up on. HappyT, Quote:
Gary,
Very well spoken.
Here in WV, we probably have one of the highest percentage rates of gun ownership in the USA. We also have one of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.
The vast majority of our violent crimes invlove drugs. Break in's are rare, especially if the homeowners are at home.
I guess the criminals don't like the idea of staring down a 12ga. shotgun or a .357 magnum. Those are 2 good reasons to mind your own business and leave other people and their families and property alone.
Bob
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WV also has a very low rate of polar bear attacks.
I would post a comment, but I've got to go outside and check for polar bears. It makes as much sense as what HappyT said!
If there is a polar bear, I have a "solution" in the closet.
Anyone up for a polar bear barbecue? Do you need a fuzzy new rug?
LOL.
Bob
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Flatfoot, Your bowtie tells everyone that you don't speak for the majority of Americans. Bob
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Gary,
Very well spoken.
Here in WV, we probably have one of the highest percentage rates of gun ownership in the USA. We also have one of the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.
The vast majority of our violent crimes invlove drugs. Break in's are rare, especially if the homeowners are at home.
I guess the criminals don't like the idea of staring down a 12ga. shotgun or a .357 magnum. Those are 2 good reasons to mind your own business and leave other people and their families and property alone.
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WV also has a very low rate of polar bear attacks.
And the North Pole and surrounding areas have a very low rate of break ins, assault, burglary, rape, or other violent crimes. Your point is?
Gary
Correlation does not imply causality.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Your bowtie tells everyone that you don't speak for the majority of Americans.
Bob
No one speaks for the majority of Americans.
Some are just louder and speak more often.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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I wonder if Trails, being adrift on his raft, far, far away from lan.... has also drifted away from reality?
France lost about 217,000 people in WWII, the U.S. lost about 417,000, the Japanese 2+ Million, the Chinese 2-3 million, the Germans over 5 million and the Soviets anywhere between 10 and 20 million people. However, the majority of the Soviet losses were in defense of their own country, and not until in 1945 did they move out of their country and into Germany.
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I agree with your numbers, but you don't have the number of German troops that were tied up fighting the Russians all those years. Those men were not available to fight us.
If Hitler had not been so foolish as to open up two fronts, he might have been able to keep a big chunk of western Europe, or at best, it would have taken us many more years to beat him. He might even have gotten the A-bomb first.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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HappyTrails, (a.k.a., Unhappy-always negative-damn you for being happy-stay the hell off my-Trails), I'm back from checking for polar bears now. I can't find any! I'm really disappointed because I wanted some barbeque P.B. and one of my Canadian friends wanted the pelt! Anyway, your last post: Quote:
I agree with your numbers, but you don't have the number of German troops that were tied up fighting the Russians all those years. Those men were not available to fight us.
If Hitler had not been so foolish as to open up two fronts, he might have been able to keep a big chunk of western Europe, or at best, it would have taken us many more years to beat him. He might even have gotten the A-bomb first.
It kind of sounds like that you think you could have helped lead Hitler to victory!
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob
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HappyTrails, (a.k.a., Unhappy-always negative-damn you for being happy-stay the hell off my-Trails),
I'm back from checking for polar bears now. I can't find any! I'm really disappointed because I wanted some barbeque P.B. and one of my Canadian friends wanted the pelt!
Anyway, your last post:
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I agree with your numbers, but you don't have the number of German troops that were tied up fighting the Russians all those years. Those men were not available to fight us.
If Hitler had not been so foolish as to open up two fronts, he might have been able to keep a big chunk of western Europe, or at best, it would have taken us many more years to beat him. He might even have gotten the A-bomb first.
It kind of sounds like that you think you could have helped lead Hitler to victory!
Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob
And you sound like an ignorant redneck.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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Flatfoot, Your bowtie tells everyone that you don't speak for the majority of Americans. Bob
FF: I never claimed to do so. Not here, not now, not ever.
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I find I must concur with HT to an extent here. There is no doubt that the entry of the US into WWII turned the tide, but as I have stated in this very forum a couple of years ago, they didn't do it on their own, and proportionally their losses weren't a patch on the Germans and Japanese.
I will not play the "What if" game, but had the US entered WWII much earlier, say 1939, things would have been very different. Would they have been better or worse? I don't know. Better I hope, but who can tell?
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya  --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
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Better historians than any of us have studied WWII.
One thing is certain - Hitler and the Japs at that time were evil and good men stopped them.
Like the man said, "ain't that a kick in the head!"
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HappyTrails, (a.k.a., Unhappy-always negative-damn you for being happy-stay the hell off my-Trails), Quote:
And you sound like an ignorant redneck.
You only got it about 10% right.
I'm not ignorant.
Because of the state I live in, many consider all the people that live here to be rednecks. I guess that astronauts like Jon McBride, test pilots like Charles Elwood "Chuck" Yeager, country music's Kathy Mattea, Daniel Boone, Thomas "Stonewall"Jackson", Mary Lou Retton, Booker T. Washington, Jerry West and etc., etc., etc. would all, by that definition, be rednecks.
So I guess I'm in pretty good company. Therefore, you can boost that redneck percentage up another 10 points!
Since I like bluegrass and country music, let's add another 5 points to that.
So that means you're only 75% wrong. (I'm trying to help to help you out here, UnhappyT).
And in the spirit of the season, here's my gift to you:
http://www.thehappyguy.com/
You can even sign up for your "daily dose of happiness".
Let me know how it works out for you.
Happy New Year,
Bob 
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Hey Flatfoot, I don't speak for anyone but myself, nor am I trying to. I hope you had a VERY Merry Christmas and I hope for God's blessing on you in the New Year. Bob 
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HappyT, In a previous thread based on a comedy clip about Tiger Woods, you went from assault, to murder, to making wife beating jokes, and finished off with threatening to put up pics of O.J. Simpson's wife with her throat cut. I asked at that time how you were going to "lower", (not top), yourself then, and I guess I now have my answer. Here is HappyTrails comment on weinsam's "Merry Christmas" thread; Quote:
Either God knew and allowed it, or He is not all powerful. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
Hard to accept that the God in the Bible is a baby-killer, but I guess you can interpret it any way you like.
He killed millions of innocent people in the old testament too - IF you believe in the bible.
I guess you finish off by saying that God is a "baby killer" and mass murderer.
Do you have any more witty and heartwarming things for us for the holiday season?
Please don't go any lower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob 
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Was speaking genrally, flatfoot. Makes my point about if folks were sitting at a table talking, things wouldn't be taken so flippin literally.
If youre on some street corner, flatfoot, and you're getting beaten by some guy to within an inch of your life and i come along and stop it; after i come see you in the hospitol after your 6 life saving surgeries, would you actually question my "motives" for saving yer ass? Cmon man...lol......thats all i mean.
And quick note: the Russians "were" a part of the allies.
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Better historians than any of us have studied WWII.
One thing is certain - Hitler and the Japs at that time were evil and good men stopped them.
Happy, I usually agree with a lot of what you say especially concerning religious hypocrisy and this quote is right on but what is this next one all about?
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The purpose of the modern US military is to protect the interests of huge multi-national corporations and their wealthy CEOs and investors.
How does your first quote reconcile with the second? Protecting the interests of wealthy corporations is right out of the far left lunatic fringe playbook. Any free country's economy is based on the average person working for a rich one either an individual or a large corporation, ergo what's good for the wealthy is generally good for the country, within reason of course. When you said "...their wealthy CEO's and investors" you're talking about yourself if you own any stock or mutual fund even if it's through your employer.
Defending the country by definition also means defending the means of producing products which means defending the economy which means defending wealthy corporations.
Without the wealthy we have squat including health care. Without them, there's no taxes so no federal government either. I'm sure you do know that something like 60% of all income taxes are paid by the wealthy, don't you? This is what I've never understood about the left trashing big corporations and the rich. They want bigger government to fund all kinds of things yet they want to kill the goose that's required to pay for it all. The economy IS the country, without a strong economy, there is nothing left to defend.
The thousands of bombing raids into Germany were mostly all about killing the German economy. The oil fields, the ball bearing factories, the dams, the shipyards, everything necessary for a strong economy.
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