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Hi all,
I bought BIAB 2011.5 Megapak about a month ago and am having a great time with it. I've also purchased 3 realtracks sets and am enjoying these as well. I think your Paul Franklin Pedal Steel Solos tracks are simply amazing! Such a difficult instrument to play well and you did a great job with it.
Anyway, I wanted to suggest that you do a couple new realtracks solo discs. The first would be for flute solos at different tempos. The second would be for solo violin with maybe a background track of real cello. Being able to generate realtracks solos for flute and violin would be amazing for progressive rock writers like myself.
Congratulations PG on a great product!
Dennis Montgomery
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Yes, indeed, an amazing product. Personally, I'd like to see more real rhythm tracks, with hot licks thrown-in and all the rest---but, basically supportive backing tracks, not solos. I don't use any of the soloist tracks. I play my own on guitar, along with 3 great horn players, using BIAB live. I don't know why anyone would use the soloist tracks, unless it's in a recording environment.
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I am in full agreement. We need less time devoted to solos and a greater array of rhythm styles and tempos please. Moderate Gypsy Jazz, some rockabilly/1950's double bass and jive Bill Haley style rhythm guitars to support small horn sections. A bit of trad jazz would be great too. Far to much bebop around these days and gigging to the wider audience requires simpler more nostalgic styles. Keep up the great work BIAB, we all think you are the best!! From Fine Whines Jazz...
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More Smooth Jazz Rhythm tracks would be great for me !
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More accurate playing in the bluegrass lead acoustic would be wonderful. All I find is "PG artist". It sounds like a jazz player playing bluegrass....lots of missed notes and lack of variety.So would a cleaner player in rock lead guitar. Brent's tracks in this genre are OK but pretty sloppy.They don't sequence very well and tend to lack continuity no matter how many times they are regenerated.Some good, solid rock/blues piano is also lacking as is rock and blues tenor sax. I would buy a real tracks package directed towards these issues immediately but it doesn't seem to be addressed.Of course I realize it's difficult to find players in these styles. Could be there's little demand for these areas. I'm just a used to be accomplished guitar player who incurred a left hand injury and can't play anymore so these types of tracks would be great for me to use if made available. Also some half time country real tracks seem to be lacking...at least I can't find any.Thanks.
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Ha ,you should hear how the harmonica sounds if you think Brent lacks continuity !
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Yeah....forgot to mention that. I once watched Brent play at a session here in Nashville and I know he can play much better than that. Who knows what he was trying to play with when those tracks went down? It just seems strange that such a great program would be so lacking in these areas.Most likely the economic conditions have driven sales down and the cost of developing real tracks is undoubtedly quite high.I would buy all kinds of add ons if these things were included.Rock piano is completely left out except for one track called Texas funky or something like that...I understand because I know how hard it is to find piano players who know how to play without muddying" up everything. Imagine if all this was as good as the Paul Franklin stuff! How cool would THAT be?!He clearly put allot of vision into the tracks he laid down.
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Paul really nails it on any chord you dish out too !
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While we're real track wishing, here's one I'd like to see---a pedal steel rhythm part in the swing (Sw) style at slower tempos, say, around 085. The Ev style is present, but not Sw. The Sw 085 is available in the fiddle real track. A droning steel would make a nice background on some country ballad tunes, maybe switching out with the fiddle throughout the tune.
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Real Track 'free jazz' piano trio, no metre, just implied tempo with the ride cymbal and irregular punctuations on the rest of the drum kit. The bass playing broken figures and the piano doing extravagant glissandos, trills, staccato stabs a la Cecil Taylor at his most hyperactive. The old folks at the nursing home gigs won't know what hit them!
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Tommy,
You bet! The guy is an awesome musician. Watched Buddy Emmons on a session back in '93...he was something! Just nailed everything in one take. BTW...do you know a way to get half time country out of real tracks?
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Did you ever hear Billy Braddy play ? Buddy and Billy ( good friends) were given the first pedal steels by Fender ! I was Billy's sound man for that last 4 years of his life ,he never told me he was dying of cancer until a couple weeks before . I had just purchased 2004 Biab and was about to record some western swing tunes when he passed . I started recording his steel guitar direct at gigs so I could save some of his music ,but he only had 2 gigs left . I made a CD of his licks to use in my home recordings ,but have never used them yet . I played on a CD with Maurice Anderson (also friends w/ Billy)before in Dallas ,but was just a hired guitarist. He was so incredible and did all of the tunes in only one take . He wrote the charts for us all so fast it was unbelievable . Here is a picture of Billy and another friend of mine that passed Pee Wee Walker (great fiddle player) we played together every Sat. night for 4 years. I miss them both ! http://www.etsga.org/
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The dixieland tracks are very meagre and poor and really should be improved. It does not seem to recognise how popular the music is in Europe although looked down on in the US. The Dukes of Dixieland really not the real thing. There is a UK trad jazz web site with 4000 or so Dixieland/Trad tunes in a Box format which suffer from a lack of Real Tunes Dixieland Styles. Maybe someone should listen to the Uptown Lowdown Jazz Band form Seattle on Youtube to see how lively Dixieland/Trad should be..... Dondel
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Quote:
Hi all,
I bought BIAB 2011.5 Megapak about a month ago and am having a great time with it. I've also purchased 3 realtracks sets and am enjoying these as well. I think your Paul Franklin Pedal Steel Solos tracks are simply amazing! Such a difficult instrument to play well and you did a great job with it.
Anyway, I wanted to suggest that you do a couple new realtracks solo discs. The first would be for flute solos at different tempos. The second would be for solo violin with maybe a background track of real cello. Being able to generate realtracks solos for flute and violin would be amazing for progressive rock writers like myself.
Congratulations PG on a great product!
Dennis Montgomery
Mutiny in Jonestown
Welcome to the forums, and to BIAB! And I completely agree with you -- in the Styles Wish List forum, I just this morning requested some classical RTs, precisely the kind you're asking about. (I didn't mention cello, but I'd love it.) Here's hoping they get to it by next summer....
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I guess some of the session musicians are too far north to understand how to play real country/ southern gospel... I could send some recordings from our session guys... especially the piano player... these guys know when to come on and when to lay out.... backibg real tracks should be just that... fire that fiddle player they just played something way out of the box!!
Can't you tell when a singer would 'normally' be singing and therefore when to do a fill? I'm waiting for the 2012 sale... please hurry that up... I'm ready to upgrade to everything you got!! Brilliant program... I've owned it since it was a DOS program...
More tempos please... 65 85 100 110 120 130 140 150 160 and so on... I always seem to end up with tempos that fall between the cracks and the audio gets grainy... then I have to go in the booth and do a rhythm pass on my acoustic to 'glue' it together... You really should get the main styles of music nailed down before trying for the stranger stuff...
Keep up the great work!!
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Knuckler--Don't bother to send a CD of your session players. P.G. Music has hired the finest players in the world. Let me take a minute to give credit to Peter Gannon and crew for selecting the best and not the cheapest featured in BIAB and RB. If I uderstand your post. FIRE THE FIDDLE PLAYER? If you had a current version of Band In Box you could read about the musicans that you are running down. The list looks somewhat like this:1 Wanda Vick-from Crook And Chase tv show and countless sessions. 2 Stuart Duncan was 8 time IRMA fiddle player of the year. 3- Hank Singer featured often on the Marty Stewart tv Show, is the fiddle player we hear on the Bill Anderson specials and recorded with Faron Young. 4- Kenny Sears fronts The Time Jumpers Band @ The Station Inn, to Kenny Sears left on stage you will see another P.G. musican. His name is Paul Franklin. Kenny was with Mel Tillis for years. 5-Glen Duncan has toured with Earl Scruggs,Bill Monroe, Recorded with Shania Twain,John Denver. 6- Andy Leftwich was with Ricky Skaggs and Kentucky Thunder,Travis Tritt,Steve Warniner ,he was also featured on PBS with greats such as Ricky Skaggs,Earl Scruggs and Doc. Watson. 7- And Tim Kilphuis from Holland. He is considered one of the world's best at his craft. Check out his wonderful work in the Gypsy styles and as a featured soloist. I do not post very often on this forum,but I felt a need to respond to your one and only post. You joinded the forum last Sunday and here it is only thursday. (Thanksgiving Day) I want to welcome you to the forum and say your statements about P.G. Music' choice of muicans STINKS .  e.l.c.
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Also, if you want the players to come in and out as real players do, then you need to do the work. The program does not read your mind it supplies basic tracks. If you want say the fiddle player to not play over the vocal put a hold on the fiddle track at the beginning of the vocal, and keep it there until the vocal ends. Same with any other tracks. You have to be the conductor, and direct the players. i might use three fiddle RTs to get what i want, a soft basic one for fill in some areas, and a solo one in the right place and a chop track for during other activity.
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I've had Biab since it was a dos program.... I guess you don't have a sense of humor about my remarks... when one of the players suddenly goes off in left field, 'Fire that damn player!!' is just studio humor... though I have recorded some of the best session players out there... Nashville cats and all.... though I understand that BIAB is doing incredible things it still seems that a B/G player should know when to add the fills... usually 3 or four beats into the bar....
I recommend BIAB to every musician/songwriter I meet as an essential tool...
I've been on BIAB's forums before I just had a different email so I just re-upped... I've been recording for 35 years... 17 of them in New Orleans... I've recorded George Porter Jnr from the Meters, Ziggiboo Modeliste from the same, Mighty Sam McClean... Earl King... Up here Ralph Stanley's ban dthe Clinch Mountain Boys twice, and Ralph himself one time. This studio has recorded Doc Watson, Kenny Chesney and many others over the years... just giving my creds...
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