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Is there any way to enter half-note triplets (three notes in two "beats")in BiaB's Editable Notation?

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Yes. In swing resolution (triplets on each beat). Enter a note on the 1st, 5th and 9th divisions of the bar. Later, Ray

Just re-read your post. What you describe, can't happen. Three half notes can't happen in two beats. That would be quarter note triplets in two beats. Half note triplets would happen in 4 beats. Later, Ray

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Highly recommended reading: FAQ #25.

http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq23.htm#25


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Thank you raymb1 and Matt Finley for your replies.

After reading raymb1's reply, I realised that I did not ask my question correctly. What I was looking to accomplih in Editable Notation was quarter-note triplets, e.g., 3 quarter notes in two beats.

Based on raymb1's answer for putting 3 half-note triplets on four beats, I deduced to change the song to triplet resolution, and then put a note on the 1st, 3rd and 5th divisions of the first two beats of the bar.
It worked perfectly.

Based on the FAQ (#25) that Matt's link pointed to, I found that it doesn't work if triplet is on beats 2 and 3 of the bar, but it works fine on beats 3 and 4. Also, if for any reason I don't want the entire song's notation to be in "triplet feel", it seems it cannot be done.

Again thanks for the help.

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Well, you can often get the notation to look OK if you use #2 in that FAQ: "Right-click on the time indicator line above the beat that you want to change. This will bring up the Beat Resolution dialog. The time indicator line is the narrow horizontal space above the lyric entry area; it contains a little black cursor that shows the current position of your song.


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Andy,

In my experience, triplets and BIAB's notation of them has mixed results depending on the type of triplets and the notes involved. That being said, though, while they are not always displayed accurately, they ARE always played accurately by the program.

I set my triplets using the Piano Roll editor.

For example: to set the quarter note triplets you mention. I'd go into Piano Roll editor and ...

1. Set the "Snap" and the "Dur" (i.e. the "snap to grid" and the "duration of the note") to the quarter note with the "3" beside it as shown below. (Note that all notes with a "3" beside them indicate triplet resolution. As can be seen, BIAB has many triplet resolution settings.)



2. Then I'd hold down control+shift to make the writing tool appear and I'd enter the notes I wanted. If they did not enter on the correct pitch or time-location, I'd simply release the control+shift and the cursor then allows the midi notes to be dragged and positioned anywhere on the piano roll's grid.

To explain what I mean about the confusion between the way triplet notation displays as opposed to how it plays, the following pictures tell the story.

Picture 1: The notes C, D, E entered as quarter note triplets using Piano Roll editor.



Picture 2: The above notes displayed in Editable Notation Mode (using the "triplet resolution" setting found in "Opt").



Picture 3: The same notes displayed in Notation Mode (the triplet resolution setting is still set but the "editable" ability has been disengaged).



Picture 4: Same triplets as above with the "tick offset" found in "Opt" set to "0". In Picture 3, above, the tick offset was set to -7.



In ALL instances, though, the triplets play 100% correctly as the display is independent of playback.

From my perspective, the bottom line is that if you are after the sound of triplets being played correctly, BIAB will do that perfectly in every instance and in many resolutions. To enter a triplet correctly, I always choose to use the Piano Roll editor. If, however, I'm after triplets to be displayed correctly on a lead sheet, that may or may not be possible. Because of this, I use a separate notation program for notating lead sheets that are beyond the capability of BIAB. For 95% of my work, though, BIAB is brilliant.

Hope my above perspective gives you are little more insight.

Regards,
Noel

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