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Dear All,
There’s a big gap in the Real Drums collection for cool modern jazz drumming.
Think: Bill Stewart, Jeff Ballard, Eric Harland, Peter Erskine, Jorge Rossy, Asaf Sirkis, Adam Nussbaum, Paul Motian, Clarence Penn, Terri Lynn Carrington, Jack de Johnette, Brian Blade, etc.
I’d see the following as the distinctive features of those players:
1. Complex ride patterns, with minimal ‘sizzle’ – just the stick-tip ‘click’ really – with spare, funky punctuation on the rest of the kit.
2. Mainly Even rather than Swing feel
3. Minimal use of crash cymbals, especially in pre- and post-fills.
4. Minimal use of the Kick Drum, except for punctuation.
5. Variations such as mallets on slower numbers
Most of the non-Latin jazz RD’s currently available are Terry Clarke’s. He’s a great player of course, but his approach tends to be very splashy and full-on. There’s a big gap around cool, modern grooves.
Since BIAB-2012 introduced the capacity to use loops, I’ve hunted everywhere for cool modern jazz drum loops to approximate non-splashy modern jazz drummers – and drawn a complete blank. Hence this request.
I’m sure your regulars – Craig Scott or Terry Clarke – could play this style. Or bring in someone new.
I’m sure your many jazz users would be very appreciative. (See, for example, Jazzman60’s wish-list post last week, which has drummer Moritz Baranczyk playing very much in this style)
Many Thanks. Best to All there. Andy
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BIAB only has a rough approximation to this in the Keith Jarrett based styles and maybe the PATFAST and RALPH1 styles. These are midi however. We could be doing with a lot more and in Real Drums format. I'm also thinking of complex rhythms such as these in this context, even though they tend to be a bit 'full-on' compared to your list. Henry Threadgill & make a move Henry Threadgill and Zooid Otherwise plus 1 Regards Alan
Last edited by alan S.; 04/16/12 06:14 PM.
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Andy,
I am in awe of your post. I cannot imagine a better presented suggestion. Not everyone will have their suggestion implemented, but I am sure that for those things which are doable, those who present it with such clear descriptions and supporting information have by far the best shot.
I have some ideas for some drum styles that I would like to hear (one being some of the work on Bruce Hornsby's Hot House, but I wouldn't have a clue how to describe them other than to give a song name and to say, "Like that." Your post is brilliant.
Richard
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Thanks for your kind words Richard. I have tried asking for some modern jazz RD's before.. but to no avail, sadly. Hopefully this time...! Best - Andy
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