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FWIW...I'm somewhere in the middle of...the post is OK and the post is BS.

We really can't complain about a lack of new features when we admit from the get go that we haven't read the MOUNTAIN of Users Guide and tutorials.

I don't recall exactly but I think the User's Guide is like 300+ pages and there are HOURS of tutorials.

From what I can tell on this forum...the advanced users who have taken the time and trouble to REALLY dig into the software know pretty much immediately what the new features are...i.e. they GET IT...but have invested a BUNCH of time in getting as good as they are.

So, I think it is unfair to criticize the functionality of the software unless and until we have figured out how do use it.

And as others have pointed out, the additional RTs and the new Super Midis are worth the price of the entire upgrade. (I'm waiting for 2013 so I can't testify to the new midi tracks but even the 2010.5 RTs I have are KILLER in most cases.

On the other hand...twice a year upgrades my dilute the IMPACT of the new version vs. the existing. But keep in mind that a LOT of people (hopefully) are first time buyers and aren't "upgrading" at all.

So, as has been pointed out...if 2 a year doesn't float your boat, then don't buy 2 a year. I've bought in about every second or third year and haven't had any seizures in the meantime! (-:

Finally, in the price is the FABULOUS tech support from the PG folks which in my rather broad experience with tech support...being essentially a tech nincompoop...is THE best of breed...and I can't think of any other company that is even CLOSE.

That would be good enough but when supplemented by all the really talented and experienced users on this forum...it's just game, set and match for BIAB from a tech support point of view.

That is to be appreciated AND supported financially whenever doing so makes any sense at all for the user.

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Jim

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im sure there are other features that I would love if I knew what and how they work.

I think there are probably MANY people such as myself that dont want to publicly embarrass themselves that arent aware of the capabilities of the program.......and how to use it.......

a Band In a Box For Dummies Book or Tutorial would be great!




Band In a Box for Dummies is basically this forum.

My advice is don't worry about it right now. All the latest upgrades, RT's, Supertracks and whatever the Next Big Thing happens to be will be available in all the subsequent versions and you can get completely caught up later. I agree with you, this is a daunting program, there's tons of features when you start digging beyond the basic "enter the chords and hit play" thing. The beauty of the program is pretty much anybody can do that in the first five minutes but, once you've done that and your musicians ears tell you something is missing, that's when the really deep stuff begins to emerge and that will take time for you to learn. After you've learned that then you will begin to think, gee, can I make it do this? That's when somebody will say oh yeah, that was introduced in the last update and then you can decide if you want to pay for it or not.

This program is a continual work in progress that is heavily influenced by us users. PG really does read suggestions here and will implement a lot of them but then they also come up with brand new things we never thought of.

The thing about computers is the programming. Biab is totally musical in that PG pretty much follows classical music concepts but due to computer and programming protocols things are done that while the end result is very musical, the way you have to accomplish it may not make immediate sense.

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How can there ever be too many styles???
All it needs is to have a good style picker and search options, so the wanted style can be found easiily. This can always be improved - d`accord.

You wouldn`t ***** about having too many different car brands on the market, would you? Of course, we can always go back to the old German Democratic Republic times and drive Trabants only. But I doubt, that`s what you really want.

So just benefit from all those styles and try to filter your search results. Dig into the programm and you`ll soon find your favorite styles. And even if there are only 10 styles you`ll like and/or need, they probably weren`t there, if the programm had only, say, 20 different styles.

Enjoy the programm.
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I personally consider the upgrade a buy if I get one decent usable real track from it. The way I figure it is it would cost me a minimum of $50 per hour to get someone in to play a part for me. Two hours in the studio and it's cost me $100. I get the real tracks (101 every update) and use just one for my track and I'm even. Of course I get more than one useable real track in every upgrade so the others are just bonus. Now all of the other upgrades from upgrade to upgrade are also just gravy for me. If I don't use a thing in the new upgrade now I may later. I love BIAB. Don't use Real Band. So what? It's still there and someday I might.

I'm sorry but I can not NOT justify buying the upgrade every 6 months. I would probably buy an upgrade of BIAB every month if it was offered that way. And I really don't use it that much because I'm to busy with everything else! But when I do use it, its there and every thing that comes with it is there. I don't drink or run women so the wife lets me do BIAB. What a deal!


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