Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Ryszard Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
I and others have been asking for Rewire for a long time. It is one of the few Wishlist items to which PG have responded, saying that "they are looking into it."

Now I have an immediate personal reason. My workflow consists largely of working in BIAB and Propellerhead Reason (currently version 6.02, soon to be 6.5.1). Until now I have avoided using Real Band in favor of Nuendo just because I have it. However, it's a twelve-year-old version that I can't even run on my new DAW. (No parallel port for the dongle.)

Here's the thing. Reason doesn't use plugins, period. It also has no MIDI out. Real Band does both, comes bundled with my sparkly new version of BIAB, and does run on the new DAW. Unfortunately, RB and Reason don't talk to each other.

Rewire in PG Music products would be the best of all possible worlds. I have provided my and Propellerhead's rationale elsewhere. Briefly, it would allow PG products to talk to all major sequencers, streaming audio between using fewer resources than simply running the two programs together, and sharing a single set of transport controls. (For PG developers, Reason currently runs as a slave only.)

The Rewire SDK is free and support is provided by Propellerhead. It's a win all around. For them as wants an introductory technical understanding of Rewire, THIS LINK will get you started.

Having just bought BIAB 2012.5, Rewire is the only thing I can think of that would make me upgrade again.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,296
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,296
Curious enough to ask. Reason won't import WAV files?


I smashed the hell out of my car today. When the cops came I told him "Officer, that guy was BOTH texting and drinking a beer." The cop said "Sir, he has every right to do that. I mean, it's HIS living room..."
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Ryszard Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Reason will import WAV files, but not MP3s.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 123
B
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
B
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 123
Ryszard, we have been on the same crusade for years with the only official answer being "we are looking into it." Its a real shame (I don't use reason at all) but just to be able to mix using biab rewired into a DAW would be the best. But ubfortunately it seems we are never gonna get it

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Ryszard Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,921
Quote:

Ryszard, we have been on the same crusade for years with the only official answer being "we are looking into it." Its a real shame (I don't use reason at all) but just to be able to mix using biab rewired into a DAW would be the best. But ubfortunately it seems we are never gonna get it




I'm not even holding on to the idea of Rewire and BIAB (note that this is the Real Band wishlist). I can see where it might be problematic in BIAB. However, imagine RB and almost any sequencer (except Reason, which doesn't use plugins) wired together--now you have full access to all VSTs and VSTi's such as the drum emulators that everyone is clamoring for, plus the full functionality of Real Tracks/Drums. Two birds, if not more, with one figurative stone.


"My primary musical instrument is the personal computer."
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
ROG Offline
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
It would certainly be useful to be able to use the multiple outputs which many of the VSTs have. I believe rewire would allow this.

ROG.

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
R
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
R
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
@Rog, rewire would allow you to use other DAW in a parallel running mode and if that other DAW allows you access to the individual outs, then you have it. Rewire is aptly named - it's like you can 'wire' audio and control lines for tempo, midi, etc. between simultaneously running applications.

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
D
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 16
I think most people don't really know what Rewire is,
therefore they don't request it.

PG-Music want to stay in their own world,
wich is fine if you like that world.

I come from the normal DAW world.
So I'm used to that standard.

I really like the Realtracks feature.
So I like to use that feature.

With Rewire, Realband will hook on to your DAW's Asio driver.
And play in rock solid sync.
Also, every track output in Realband will show up in your DAW, both audio and midi.
So you can use the vst and vsti in your DAW instead.

If you think it's ok to just drag and drop, fine.
And that is of course what I eventually will do,
when I finished the arranging phase.

So please PG-Music, Rewire.

Thanks
Eric

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
E
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
E
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
I just assumed with it being the years 2012.5 and a bit rewire would be standard? Oh well

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
"Unfortunately, RB and Reason don't talk to each other."



I don't know if it'll will work as I don't have Reason to try this http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115

ReWire VST works as a standard VST instruments and can load all versions of Reason (32-bit and 64-bit) on PC and Mac OS X. Want to use Reason inside energyXT, MPC, Maschine or any other VST DAW/sequencer, then ReWire VST is for you.

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
I don't have Reason but I just tried it to see if the vst loads - it does and gives me a selection of other daws to choose from - I choose Acid - hit play and Acid just stays playing on bar 1 and keeps looping on the bar - so real band is not sending synchronization n bpm to the vst - so when they fix that problem in band in a box it should work very good synchronized playing with other daws.


Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
rewire vst real band.jpg (97.6 KB, 57 downloads)
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 3
L
Newbie
Offline
Newbie
L
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 3
please share rewire vst link. ty

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
PG finally implemented VstTimeInfo in their products and fixed the audio issue with Biab and ReWireVST. It's a shame that so many previous Biab/RB users do not get a chance to have this ReWireVST working when they were active.
It was abandoned for a long time now it's re-released on a new site
https://www.xtsware.com/?page_id=334

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,111
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,111
Hard to believe someone can charge $25 for a depreciated plugin.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Clipboard01.jpg (214.28 KB, 27 downloads)
Last edited by Jim Fogle; 12/24/22 11:44 AM. Reason: Add screen shot

Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
I think PG were trying to work out a deal with them to get it in Biab/RB but no one could get hold of the company.

RealBand Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,458
There are working on a 64bit version of EnergyXT
https://www.xtsware.com/?page_id=6 that is free to try/alpha test.
Biab worked great with the 32bit Plugin version allowing you to add so many extra tracks to Biab before Util tracks were in as they finally got the Vst Sync implemented. So look forward to the 64bit Plugin version to have a DAW inside Biab.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!

The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!

Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.

This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245

The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option

Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!

Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,518
Posts733,997
Members38,481
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
WOOGISH, FiddleBass, DeanMassyers, Clydene, FOYE
38,480 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 194
DC Ron 104
dcuny 89
Today's Birthdays
Ivar, keyboard player, mellyfu
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5