You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#203691 - 05/19/13 09:48 PM [User Showcase] All These Things
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
This is a song that is about 12 years old... I wrote it and recorded it many years back and performed it several times live. I was needing something to do so I decided to update it and record it again and this is the result.

5 vocal tracks
4 guitar tracks
1 bass track

all me playing

the rest is real band tracks.
drums
steel background and solo
fiddle
Piano back ground and solo
B-3 organ


https://www.box.com/s/wm4h18ug8pyxcub5bf6w

It is a Christian Country song called All These Things....

hope you enjoy it.


Edited by Guitarhacker (05/19/13 09:52 PM)
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#203712 - 05/20/13 07:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14883
Loc: Australia
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 14883
Loc: Australia
Hi Herb,

As I listened, the one thing that really stood out to me was your expertise as a songwriter. "All These Things" is incredibly well crafted - music, lyrics, thoughtful arrangement, performance and production.

From top to bottom, I found the song incredibly engaging and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

All the best,
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#203719 - 05/20/13 07:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Noel96]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Thank you.... to me that is one of the highest compliments someone could give.
Again, thank you.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#203729 - 05/20/13 08:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6941
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 6941
Loc: Florida
Herb,

This is incredibly good! I've never listened to Christian Country radio, but this sounds very "cuttable".

Your vocal is terrific. And the production and mix are top-notch. It sounded like some classic Willie Nelson song. Great use of the RTs. Did you do anything "special" for the pedal steel lead? - it sounded like you had the steel player right there with you playing exactly what you asked for...

Great job.

floyd
_________________________
125+ BIAB Songs

Top
#203730 - 05/20/13 08:58 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
I use a combination of tracks.... back ground steel and solo steel and by using envelopes in my DAW I can get pretty much what I need.

The same thing is happening on the piano. Backing piano plays throughout, but the solo piano pops in to throw the licks in the beginning and the solo piano is playing the second verse.... backing is totally out in the second verse.

I sometimes need to render a RT several times to get exactly what I'm looking for... if there are any secrets to mixing... one of them is the use of "hard" enveloping. Pull the instrument out except where it is needed.

In the case of this song... the hardest part of the mix engineering was to decide which instrument to allow to play and when,,,, the enveloping at the beginning and end is surgical.

The picture below is not this song but is typical of my mixes. notice the surgical edits and the hard enveloping used.

If any one has questions please ask. The song represented in this picture is on my sound click website ( the Best Christmas ) listen to the piano to hear what the result of this editing is... the piano fill envelopes in verse one is what you see in this photo. I don't mean to jump to a different song... only as an example.... but the guitar solo in TBC is built in this same manner from 5 (IIRC) renderings of the same RT in order to get a complete smoking solo. It all depends on how much work you want to put into a song.




Edited by Guitarhacker (05/20/13 09:04 AM)
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#203745 - 05/20/13 10:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
boehm Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/22/12
Posts: 2868
Loc: Karlsruhe, Germany
Hi Herb,

an excellent mix.
Very enjoyable.

Guenter
_________________________
http://www.21d.de/
Latest Song: What You Desire

Top
#203800 - 05/20/13 10:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 4414
Sundance Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 4414
Great song and sound Herb. Like that Willie vibe in the vocal too.

Enjoyed it very much.

Top
#203816 - 05/21/13 03:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 10/25/08
Posts: 7691
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC
Pat Marr Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/25/08
Posts: 7691
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC
Fist of all I want to thank you for expressing your faith musically. Seems like the natural thing to do.

I agree with the Willie Nelson comparison.

And if "surgical" is the way you describe your editing style, then, you're a mighty fine surgeon in my book. You've clearly invested some time in learning the craft of recording, and you also seem to have the musical talent to make it all worthwhile.

Good job at every level! I thoroughly enjoyed that one!

Top
#203827 - 05/21/13 07:25 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4840
Loc: Florida
90 dB Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4840
Loc: Florida
Very nice Herb. Song, production, sentiment, all good.


Regards,


Bob

Top
#203833 - 05/21/13 07:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Hey, I just want to say THANKS! to all who took the time to listen and comment.

I do certainly appreciate you all.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#203854 - 05/21/13 09:55 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 7169
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 7169
Loc: GA USA
Thanks for posting. That is a nice tune all the way around and from my perspective sitting in front of my KRK's the production is flawless. Your screen shot looks like some of mine. I often cut/splice real tracks by the measure (or less) to get the "right" track -- not to mention all of the gain changes. Again, a GREAT mix and the vocals/lyrics are deserving of it.
_________________________


Check out our BiaB SoundCloud songs!
J&B YouTube Sampler
J&B Website
Our album "All Over The Map" is on Apple Music, Spotify and others.

Top
#203865 - 05/21/13 10:50 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 3672
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
dani48 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 3672
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Hi, Herb !

First of all I want to thank
you for taking the time to give
me some really good advice on
recording !:) When it comes to
your tune I can only say that it
sounded just terrific and I too
sensed a slight resemblance to
Willie Nelson in your voice
(intentional or not) !:) In any case
very pro and very enjoyable !:)

Cheers
Dani

Top
#203870 - 05/21/13 11:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Thanks... Janice & Bud as well as Dani.

Glad you learned something... that's what this is all about....

Yes, I have had people compare my voice to Willie and also Neil Young on occasion. we all kinda sing through our noses a bit..... I like the way Willie phrases his vocals and that may be a bit of an influence on it sounding a bit like him.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#203891 - 05/21/13 02:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 03/18/04
Posts: 6514
Loc: South Louisiana
Danny C. Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/18/04
Posts: 6514
Loc: South Louisiana
Late to the party here (and maybe many more as I try to catch up from a fishing weekend)but another wonderful song and with an equally wonderful production and performance.

Later,
_________________________
Danny C.
www.dannycampo.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Danny-Campo/379776252109306?skip_nax_wizard=true

The More You Drink The Better I Sound

Top
#203935 - 05/21/13 07:01 PM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 6333
Thanks Danny C... better late than never.... right?
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#204430 - 05/26/13 02:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: All These Things [Re: Guitarhacker]
Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 1352
F.M.M. Offline
Expert

Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 1352
hi herb this one almost got by me I glad I listen its all been said well done everything fits so well thanks for sharing eric
_________________________
AMD (TM) 8150 3.60 GHz Eight Core Processor 64 bit windows pro 64 bit os. sound card delta 1010 pci card 500 ssd drive 3 other drives guitars 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100 pedal Carvin SRS Studio reference series

Top


PG Music News
Polish Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows is Here!

Istnieje wiele ekscytujących nowych funkcji w Band-in-a-Box 2019!

Band-in-a-Box® z RealBand 2019: Pakiety
Band-in-a-Box® z RealBand 2019 dla Windows : Nowych Funkcji

Spanish Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 para Windows® está aquí!

Nuevas características
Todos los Paquetes

Video - Repeats & Endings Dialog Overview for Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows

In our latest video, video we go over the Repeats & Endings Dialog within Band-in-a-Box® 2019 - Learn more...

This video includes information on repeats, 1st/2nd endings, dc al coda, ds al coda, dc al fine, ds al fine, and Fake Sheet Mode.

Testimonial - Woody Piano Shack's Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box®

Check out our latest Video Testimonial from Woody of Woody Piano Shack! Woody uses Band-in-a-Box primarily as a training tool within his YouTube channel and private lessons. He's been a Band-in-a-Box user since the Atari ST days, and is very impressed with the evolution of our program - watch and you'll see! Click here...

Video - Audio Harmony Overview in Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows

We've updated our Audio Harmony Overview video using the latest Band-in-a-Box 2019 for Windows program! Watch now...

Learn even more about Audio Harmonies using the Online Manual, here.

Danish Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 til Windows® er klar!

Pakker
Nye funktioner

Dutch Band-in-a-Box® 2019 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2019 voor Windows® is hier!

Pakketten
Nieuwe Functies

Forum Stats
29484 Members
60 Forums
58089 Topics
487876 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
Stefi08, Philharmonics, jpwae, Screwloose, rvman

29484 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Jim 140
Noel96 127
Janice & Bud 125
rsdean 121
Ember - PG Music 110
Tangmo 103
rayc 102
Joe -PG Music 91
Jim Fogle 88
Deryk - PG Music 86
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays