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#207768 - 06/27/13 03:12 PM [User Showcase] Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars)
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The guitar work on this is all courtesy of Rodney Gene (TexasHeartRush).

I did a version of this song on my first CD about a year ago. That was before I had BIAB.
Since I had played everything on the original version, I thought I might be able to improve on it using the BIAB musicians.
That was working out pretty well. Some nice drums, bass and electric guitars that were WAY better played than what I can do. I recorded some acoustic guitars to give it some sheen.

Rodney had heard the origianl and suggested that if I ever re-worked it, that he might help out.
I sent him what I had, with the electric guitars removed so he could "work his magic".
He asked that I remove the acoustics (so they weren't in his way).
He then suggested that he lay in the bass track as well, so I removed the original of that, too.
Which left the drums and vocals.
He then asked if it was okay for him to "tighten up" the drums - well, yeah! (Not sure what that involved).

After all that, I added in some piano (RealTracks), and voila!



WRONG MAILBOX



Guitars by Rodney Gene (TexasHeartRush)
Bass by Rodney Gene (TexasHeartRush)

RealTracks in song: 1726:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm HonkyTonkJohn Ev 120
RealDrums in Song: NashvilleEven8^1-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride

The harmonies are mostly me... with the BIABettes mixed in low.

Crank it up! Hope you enjoy it. Comments encouraged.

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#207770 - 06/27/13 03:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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ha, ha, totally fantastic. It amazing how the smallest things can set big events into motion -- especially in a song. Super arrangement and that guy is some kind of guitar player. Great vocals in there, too.

They are bashing BIAB again over at JPF, I ought to send 'em your way!
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#207782 - 06/27/13 06:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Hey, what a great track - you guys are really rocking on this one!

Loved the story line and both the playing and vocals were well up to scratch.

As usual, a very professional mix and presentation.

ROG.

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#207783 - 06/27/13 06:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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so very tight, great mix. and the lyrics tell a wonderful story. from the vocals to the mix to the lyric... A+!

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#207795 - 06/27/13 08:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Rocking mix. Great picking and singing guys. Floyd when's the movie coming out? grin

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#207824 - 06/28/13 12:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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well Floyd,

if that song were a game of billiards, it would have been like sinking every ball on the break!

There are a bunch of ways a song can succeed or fail, and this collaboration has gotten all of them right.

The performances (your singing and Rodney's guitar playing) were not only in the pocket, but they were also very tastefully woven together into a mix that sounds like its supposed to be heard together (not all songs manage to accomplish that)

I was particularly impressed by the clever rhymes and even the way you chose words to create a very unique mood for the song. In spite of the fact that country songs are a dime a dozen, I can honestly say I've never heard anything quite like that. To my ears it is a highly original offering in a genre that has just about been exhausted for fresh ideas.

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#207838 - 06/28/13 03:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd and Rodney,



What an amazing piece of music! This has "success" written all over it on every aspect of the song - music, lyrics, production, singing, soloing, backing, mixing, etc., etc., etc.

Rodney: your playing is exceptional. Your tracks enhance Floyd's singing and lyrics incredibly well. To my ears, it's a "hand and glove" kind of perfect fit.

Floyd: I have to say that these lyrics are some of the best I've heard. Full stop (that's Aussie for "period"). They are absolutely brilliant, incredibly creative and must have taken ages to assemble. When I look at what you've written, I see a textbook example of how to use carefully considered alliteration to enhance the singability and memorability of a song. The thing is, when I listened to the song, I only picked up a bit of alliteration here and there and smiled at its quirky cleverness. When I read the lyrics though, I could see that alliteration is the cement that holds the song's brickwork together. Wow!!! And then all those inner rhymes! .... As I've already said, these lyrics must have taken ages to assemble.

I really hope this song goes places for the both of you. Do you have an account on American Song Space? It's free. The site is owned by "American Songwriter" magazine and is frequented by publishers. It might pay dividends to post there as well as here. I once had a song picked up from American Song Space by a publisher.

Ok. It's time to have another listen.

I'm awestruck!!!!!
Noel


Edited by Noel96 (06/28/13 02:59 PM)
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#207839 - 06/28/13 03:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi Floyd
I remember enjoying your video of this one pre-BIAB. Great song and the guitar playing is great!

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#207843 - 06/28/13 05:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Holey Moley. Good golly Miss Molly. That one was a rippa!



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#207894 - 06/28/13 12:20 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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hi Floyd and jane that was smokeing good guys super job and production thanks eric

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#207911 - 06/28/13 01:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: ROG]
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Hi Floyd,
Originally Posted By: ROG
Hey, what a great track - you guys are really rocking on this one!
Loved the story line and both the playing and vocals were well up to scratch.
As usual, a very professional mix and presentation.

I love your harmonies. And Rodney has really "tightened up" the drums. That's such a great sound in my Stax headphones.
I'm just going to my third listen.

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#207914 - 06/28/13 01:55 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Thanks for posting it. Great tune smile

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#207915 - 06/28/13 02:01 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Hi, Floyd !

Very pro all through !
I was especially taken by
the superb lyrics, but I
can also appreciate the
immense work you must have
put into the arrangement
and performance alike !
Admirable !


Cheers
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#207939 - 06/28/13 06:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Hey Guys,

Great job, excellent collaboration! Very tight, well arranged, good mix.
I thought it was outstanding! grin

Greg

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#207940 - 06/28/13 06:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Great job Floyd!~ And thanks for the compliments all. Its easy to play well on a good written song and this is a fun tune!

I haven't heard the final version till now. The guitars are now more squished/compressed than I left them / handed them over haha! (Might be 2 BUSS compression) laugh As a tone sensitive guitar player its not my choice for 'tone' per se as it loses natural bite and dynamics to some degree. I notice a couple peculiar guitar track cut/paste creativeness in the end of the tune from what I think were original practice takes. Hmmmmm... smile Clever Floyd.

Actually the bass line was great fun to write and play. There is more happening here than can be heard. Cool stuff either way. Keep up the good work Floyd!

Cheers!~

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#207942 - 06/28/13 06:51 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Actually going back to my original sent tracks, they were over compressed by error. I remember sending the wrong tracks during a busy week and having to re-render a couple days later. This is not the way they were meant to be heard. It would be great to correct this. 'Tone' is SO MUCH for country guitar and this is a classic 90s tone in its original form.

Its difficult to make this tune sound less than great though this version just sounds like Stereo Buss compression took the guitars tracks over the top. My fault with the original tracks. crazy

Cheers~

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#207952 - 06/28/13 08:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Wow!

later,
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#207957 - 06/28/13 09:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Yep, super job all around. Amazing what a little "tightening up" can do. wink

The only nit I'd have is the line "put a letter in the wrong mailbox", not because it called Ye Olden Times (before email) but because it called to mind someone mailing a letter.

Something like "slipped a love note" would have clarified it.

But again... super job.
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#207976 - 06/28/13 11:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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#208010 - 06/29/13 08:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: Wrong Mailbox ---- (w TexasHeartRush on guitars) [Re: floyd jane]
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Floyd: What version of BIAB do you have? Is it the audiophile edition? I am just looking for another reason as to why your stuff sounds sooooooo much better than mine! (Ha ha)


Edited by Kemmrich (06/29/13 08:54 AM)
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