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#208465 - 07/03/13 03:33 PM [User Showcase] FIRE THE NEXT TIME
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FIRE THE NEXT TIME

Apologies for posting two songs today but they are both short and we want to move on to something else. If I post them I’ll leave ‘em alone!

Janice and I originally posted a bluegrass version of this tune...that we were never completely satisfied with. It always seemed like a blues treatment would be better given the theme. After exploring an electric/drums version or three, we decided on just a bass, dobro, rhythm guitar and rhythm mandolin. Unfortunately a solo blues dobro is not available so I attempted to make up a short 8 bar solo out of rhythm snippets. Not to sure about how successful it was but it makes the song sound less tedious than just verses and fills.

The song is based primarily on three old PD African-American Spirituals, “God gave Noah the rainbow sign,” “I’ve got a home in that rock,” and “There’s honey in that rock” including some lyric tweaking of our own. So much white gospel and folk music can be readily traced to Black Spiritual tunes with a little research. A debt that is often not credited, BTW.

There is a famous line in all the versions of this song and it goes “No more water, the fire next time.” James Baldwin used this as the title of his Civil Rights book “The Fire Next Time” published in 1963. Some writers say that the spiritual was a “slavery code” tune and used to communicate with the Underground Railroad. I haven’t verified this. The phrase “honey in the rock” is thought to mean that there is some good in the toughest of places.

Janice: Vocal, Rodes NT1 mic interfaced via Blue Icicle to my iMac
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Dobro: Blues (rhythm) 585


Edited by Janice & Bud (07/03/13 03:41 PM)
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#208470 - 07/03/13 04:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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well there's definitely fire in those vocals, very soulful.
and as to the dobro solo if it started at 1:05, it sounded fine to me

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#208474 - 07/03/13 04:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Another keeper from the dynamic duo!

Fantastic vocal and the dobro lead was fine.

Ps – you two should never apologize for posting songs!
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#208480 - 07/03/13 04:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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You can post 50 a day if they are as good as these two. Another excellent piece of music and as usual Janice the voice the Good Lord gave you is amazing!
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#208489 - 07/03/13 06:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice & Bud,

You two's talent has been such an experience to listen to
and enjoy. On earlier posting you had commented on
crossing genre's. Whatever genre your crossing is
a marriage that's great for our listening.
Bud isnt' the mandolin a real find! pun intended.
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#208493 - 07/03/13 06:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Good stuff ! keep em coming

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#208541 - 07/04/13 10:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi Janice and Bud,

fantastic vocal.
The dobro lead was a good idea and worked.

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#208574 - 07/04/13 03:55 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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It just puts a smile on my face to hear her sing! grin
Another excellent job!!
Dobro solo sounds fine.

Greg

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#208646 - 07/05/13 08:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Come on, fess up.. the truth...

You went to Memphis and found this in a vault at Sun Studios.
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#208670 - 07/05/13 11:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Bud and Janice
A joy to listen to.

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#208710 - 07/05/13 07:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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gruverider: Thanks, glad the dobro seemed to work for you.

MarioD: We appreciate the comments. It means a lot!

PgFantastic: Thank you. I'm so glad that she started back singing again.

seeker: Thanks, we've had a blast playing around with BIAB genres. Something we never could interest our band in.

joden: Thanks! Glad you liked it.

boehm: Thank you. I had so many doubts about the dobro that I nearly tossed the tune.

Achordocaster: Thanks! She keeps a smile on my face and has for 33 years.

floyd jane: You nailed it! Took me a while to find a compatible tape machine.

jo131: Glad you liked it!


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#208752 - 07/06/13 03:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi Janice and Bud,

This is amazing. When I read the title, I wondered how on earth it could be used as a hook. It's a great song and the two of you really gave it a life of its own. I've lost count how many times I've played it through now! This is world class from whichever angle I look at it.

Regards,
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#208787 - 07/06/13 02:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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hi guys great production vocals is excellent tells a story mix top notch very well done thanks for sharing eric
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#209028 - 07/08/13 10:16 AM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Noel: Thanks. It is a very strange hook...but it has a lot of history behind it.

Eric: We appreciate you commenting on the story. Thanks.
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#209065 - 07/08/13 03:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: FIRE THE NEXT TIME [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Very nice song!

FYI:
Much of the language of the spirituals comes directly from the Bible stories that the slaves learned.

“… the rainbow sign”:
According to the Bible, after the Flood, God promised to never again destroy all life on earth by water. He then set the rainbow in the sky as a sign of His promise.
( Genesis 9 verses 8-17).

“Honey in the rock”:
Psalm 81 verse 16 :” But you would be fed with the finest of wheat;
with honey from the rock I would satisfy you.(NIV)”

“Fire next time”: 2 Peter,Chapter 3.

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