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#210798 - 07/30/13 06:22 AM
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Hi people, Once again, I've been playing around with some of my earlier mixes and seeing if I can add a little extra pizzazz to their production. I don't know how successful I am but I'm really enjoying revisiting some of these prior works. It's fun! It's also quite eye-opening and, in some cases, downright embarrassing!!! Anyway ... "Never Again" is a song Brenda and I wrote couple of years ago. It's a jazz waltz and features some Oliver Gannon Realtracks. The song's structure is the standard AABA form. Please feel free to comment on any aspect of the song, arrangement, mix, production. Brenda and I appreciate all feedback. Regards, Noel and Brenda BIAB INFORMATIONBass: RT 926 Guitar: RT 932 (Oliver Gannon - rhythm) Guitar: RT 1090 (Oliver Gannon - solo) Piano: RT 934 Drums: RD Jazz Brushes Waltz LYRICS© 2013 by Noel Adams & Brenda Smith[A] Never again Will I walk this road It's a one way street There's only one way to go [A] Never again Will I see this day When the sun finally sets And all the light fades away [B] This journey through life It's like I drift down a stream Days come and go On a river of dreams [A] Never again Will I wander through this where and when No never again [Instrumental] [B] (repeat)This journey through life It's like I drift down a stream Days come and go On a river of dreams [A] (repeat, plus tag)Never again Will I wander through this where and when No never, no never can this here and now come again Never again
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#210799 - 07/30/13 07:04 AM
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Hi Noel.
Makes a change for me to get in first!
What a wonderful song. Once again, a very 1930s feel to it and very authentic too.
My first impression was how pleasant and relaxing it was, but as I listened to the lyrics unfold, I found it extremely thought provoking and then quite melancholy.
It almost goes without saying that the vocals, production and mix were, as usual, excellent.
ROG.
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#210811 - 07/30/13 09:28 AM
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Noel (and Brenda)...
Smooth, cool, easy... like a lazy flowing stream. So, Noel... do you walk around your house with a top hat and cane? And wear tails at dinner? Picturing that... You ol' crooner, you...
Your mixes are always spot on. Hardly need to mention it anymore...
Here's a "JMO" on this one... The guitar solo doesn't "do it" for me. It seems too "sharp edged" (staccato, maybe). I wanted it to be a lot smoother - cool jazzier... I listened several times to see if it would "grow on me".. it did not. No doubt there will be others who love it... it's music, after all..
The video is very cool. I watched it the first time, but not the others - preferring to just listen without the visual distraction... again, just my preference.
floyd
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#210814 - 07/30/13 09:46 AM
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Nice job Noel and Brenda!
Rog's observations are keener than mine, so we'll go with his.
While I really liked the hot air balloon footage, it created a bit of cognitive dissonance when the song was creating visons of floating down a river
If you ever want some video of floating down a river, search youtube for HARPERS FERRY TUBING
I'd really like to see you and Brenda develop a new song that specifically plays off the spectacular graphics in the balloon video. It would be interesting to see how you customized a song to work with that particular bit of eye candy.
Lest I come across as a malcontent, I want to end by saying that this song and video make an awesome package with no changes! I stand in awe of your song writing
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#210823 - 07/30/13 11:13 AM
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Noel & Brenda,
Enjoyed the video and music so much. Your friends video was so nice.
+1 to the comments above.
The deer running into the trees......
Thanks for your hard work and sharing!
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#210827 - 07/30/13 11:44 AM
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Hey Noel,
Beautiful video - loved the hot air balloon drifting over the country side and thought it fit the wistfulness of the song perfectly.
No nits from me. Enjoyed everything about it - song, arrangement, mix, video.
Well done.
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#210832 - 07/30/13 12:15 PM
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Hi Noel, No nits from me. Enjoyed everything about it - song, arrangement, mix, video.
Well done. +1 Guenter
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#210914 - 07/31/13 08:14 AM
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Hi ROG, Thanks for dropping in! I really appreciate your thoughts on the journey you took through the song. It's helped me gain and insight that I didn't have. And thanks, too, for the feedback. Mixing always challenges me and it's good to know that it worked! Also ... I have to hand it to you. After listening to James' recent song, I found myself once again thinking that you're doing some pretty terrific stuff with you're students. They're lucky to have you mentoring them! I look forward to hearing more from your studio  Noel
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#210915 - 07/31/13 08:25 AM
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Great job Noel and Brenda
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#210948 - 07/31/13 01:48 PM
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Noel, Brenda,
Like they said. I really enjoyed it. The mix is really crisp. Well done!
I'm curious about the leadsheet since I always do leadsheets, tabs, and full notation for my songs. Was this leadsheet done in BB or some other program?
SD
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#211070 - 08/01/13 04:49 PM
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Noel, we really enjoyed this one. Like Floyd I was struck with the cane and top hat imagery...guess it's all the old flicks Janice and I watch. We'll watch the video later. I really like to form my own imagery first although there were some spoilers in the thread! And whether we admit or warm up to the thought life is a bit of a one way street isn't it? Thanks!
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#211134 - 08/02/13 12:13 PM
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Hi Floyd,
Ahhhh.... top hat and tails. Now that got me laughing again! I can't even imagine what I'd look like dressed up to that level of sophistication! LOL!
Glad you like the song. I hear where you're coming from with the solo because I recall feeling something similar when I first put this song together a couple of years ago. The 3/4 time signature restricted my options then. I've grown used to these tracks now, though. Oliver Gannon's playing is pure class in my book.
That being said, you've got me thinking that I should have a look around and see what else is on the menu these days.
Once again, "Thank you"
Noel
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#211135 - 08/02/13 12:19 PM
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Hi Pat, Thank you for taking time to listen and write a few comments I hear where you're coming from regarding video. I tossed and turned with exactly the same thoughts. In the end, the balloon really captured my imagination. I think that's why I stayed with it. It was really good of Dave to let me use his video, too. Thank you for passing on Harpers Ferry Tubing as a possibility. I'm going over to Youtube right now to discover what it's all about. All the best, Noel
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#211136 - 08/02/13 12:20 PM
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Hi Frank! Great to see you Oh.... you noticed the deer. I have to say that that really caught my eye too. Thank you for the "thumbs up" kinda feedback! All the best, Noel
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#211137 - 08/02/13 12:23 PM
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Hi Josie, It's always good to see you appear in a thread. I get an instant smile Thank you for taking time to listen and to comment. Appreciate it. Best wishes, Noel P.S. Hope your video making is going well. It's lots of fun, hey! I love it.
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#211180 - 08/02/13 09:25 PM
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Such a smooth and happy feeling you get when you listen to this song.
Noel not sure if I mentioned this before but your voice is very easy and friendly on the ear.
Great job!
Later,
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#211204 - 08/03/13 10:01 AM
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sweet ride! I just love upright bass and you have mixed it very well
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#211384 - 08/05/13 05:51 AM
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Dear all,
I write to apologise. I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to replying to posts. Unfortunately, 'life' has kept me on my toes for these last few weeks! Hopefully it will settle soon.
One thing I've learnt from not being able to be part of the forum for a while is that I really do miss it!
All the best,
Noel
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#211385 - 08/05/13 05:55 AM
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Hi Guenter, Thank you Hope your composing is zooming along nicely. Have you ever done anything with Mozart? Rondo Alla Turca, Sonata in C K545, Sonata in A K331, Symphony 40, etc, etc I bet you could make Mozart sing! All the best, Noel
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#211386 - 08/05/13 05:56 AM
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Hi VideoTrack,
Thank you for dropping by, having a listen and taking time to comment. Appreciate it!
All the best,
Noel
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