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#213837 - 09/04/13 08:44 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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Bob, none taken, actually it takes a lot to offend me. But you're right, I personally don't care about these other stuff; while they are cool I have no use for them.
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#213862 - 09/04/13 12:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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I would love to comment on this but I am too frustrated. I was having some issues with some other software the other day, but when I called Tech Support, I couldn't get through because I couldn't punch "4" on my rotary phone!
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#213864 - 09/04/13 12:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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BIAB for android is something I would vote for before a GUI cosmetic change. BIAB takes up about 60 GBs on my laptop, 45 GBs of that are Real Tracks. Given how much memory you can use on tablets, (capacity keeps going up), BIAB plus a few favorite Real Tracks would be great for tablet users. Later, Ray
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#213911 - 09/04/13 04:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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I've loved my BIAB for centuries, now...

but since I've Got my new Magic Jack, I just waana call people all over the world...

so I might as well ask Peter to be an international phone rep....just plug Magic Jack in to compose a new grammy winner!?
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#213945 - 09/04/13 08:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: GDaddy]
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Originally Posted By: GDaddy

but since I've Got my new Magic Jack, I just waana call people all over the world...



Hey GDaddy... Today I paid up front for 5 YEARS of Magic Jack.. it cost $99 !! FOR 5 YEARS!!

When I had BellSouth I paid more than that in a MONTH, And long distance cost extra !

plus I got to keep my old Bellsouth phone number

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#213947 - 09/04/13 09:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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Here's a great quote from Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon who bought the Washington Post recently for 250 mil. It was valued a few years ago at about 1.3 billion. This was his first meeting today with the Post's editors and staff:

“All businesses need to be young forever. If your customer base ages with you, you’re Woolworth’s,” added Bezos, who created the world’s leading online retailer. “The number one rule has to be: Don’t be boring.”

The words of a giant. Can't say it any better than that.

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#214025 - 09/05/13 06:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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Desktop computers and 32 bit operating systems are becoming extinct.

Computer hardware is diverging into two hardware groups, notebooks with desktop computing power and inexpensive tablet\smartphone with little computing power and specialized, but limited, non-standard operating systems, Android and IOS.

New desktop and notebook computers running Microsoft are shipping predominately with the 64 bit version of Windows 8 (soon to be 8.1) operating system. I suspect the same is true in the Mac camp.

This hardware and operating system evolution ultimately will force a complete overall of all PG Music products.

The overhaul may not show up in 2013 or 2014 but I would consider it a safe bet to assume that by 2015 BIAB and RealBand will be vastly different products than we know now. Not just new features and RealTracks but a complete overhaul of the programs.
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#214027 - 09/05/13 06:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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Originally Posted By: raymb1
BIAB for android is something I would vote for before a GUI cosmetic change. BIAB takes up about 60 GBs on my laptop, 45 GBs of that are Real Tracks. Given how much memory you can use on tablets, (capacity keeps going up), BIAB plus a few favorite Real Tracks would be great for tablet users. Later, Ray


Problem (HUGE) with Android Ray, is the audio latencies for music apps is terrible, and it STILL has no core midi support. It is really a pretty useless platform for music (apart from straight playback or pre-recorded audio).

Dennis

edit - PS: I have removed quite a few of the RealTracks data (no need for drums it is only about 4 gig) that I never use, like pianos, brass, strings etc. I have the total space used by RealTracks down to approx 20 Gig. It all still works fine. All you get is a yellow message saying a part cannot be loaded. But the other parts all generate and play fine.


Edited by joden (09/05/13 06:19 PM)

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#214036 - 09/05/13 08:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: joden]
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IRealb, which is an accompaniment app, plays perfectly on android. Granted, iRealb is not as sophisticated as BIAB but usable nonetheless. I use it on short gigs where I'm playing background music. Where would a latency problem come in with BIAB? My accompaniment would be straight playback. Later, Ray
P.S. My use of BIAB is for live performance only, probably a little different than your purposes. Ray


Edited by raymb1 (09/05/13 08:44 PM)
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#214038 - 09/05/13 08:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: raymb1]
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Originally Posted By: raymb1
IRealb, which is an accompaniment app, plays perfectly on android. Granted, iRealb is not as sophisticated as BIAB but usable nonetheless. I use it on short gigs where I'm playing background music. Where would a latency problem come in with BIAB? My accompaniment would be straight playback. Later, Ray


As I wrote Ray wink - there are no problems simply playing back recorded music on an Android device (which is about the pinnacle for Android)

It is for the operations that serious DAW users need - you know, sequencing, using instrument samples audio recording or even simply audio mixing and eq'ing..it is in these areas Android collapses. That's all I am going to write as it is a BIAB forum, but these Android issues are well known and very well documented. And I am speaking from personal experience as well.

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#214039 - 09/05/13 08:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB review [Re: joden]
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You posted your reply before I got my edit in:
P.S. My use of BIAB is for live performance only, probably a little different than your purposes. Ray
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