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#230417 - 12/23/13 08:26 PM [User Showcase] I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song)
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Been working on this song I wrote in 1991, still tweaking it but wanted to see what others think so far. I'd be grateful for some feedback, good/bad/suggestions.

Thanks
Paul

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Edited by PaulH (12/23/13 08:29 PM)
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#230423 - 12/23/13 09:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul,

Just my opinion of course, but I say you can stop tweaking right now. It is a solid beautiful lyric well produced, arranged and performed. Beautiful done!

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#230428 - 12/23/13 10:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul,

We're the new kids on the block here...2 whole days!

Our opinion you're done. It is a beautiful song as is with a powerful message. The instrumentation is perfect...we really liked that cello...and the rest of the music is a perfect fit. The vocal is strong and everything is well-balanced and perfectly panned. We can't think of a single thing you could do to make this a better cut. kudos!

Merry Christmas...

Al & Di
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#230434 - 12/23/13 11:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul,

Gotta agreed with Danny and Al... this is terrific. Beautiful instrumentation. A Top-Notch vocal performance. A solid mix.

After following all your threads about mics and monitors and mixing, etc., etc. - and the doubts you seem to be having, I wasn't sure what to expect.... I say you have no worries... It's working!! In a big way...

This is really well done.

floyd

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#230443 - 12/24/13 06:22 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Well done!!! Great message and great mix. I am like you, I always feel like I need to do just one more thing. However - Your done!

The Lord gave you a great gift. If you haven't already, time to share it with the world!

Merry Christmas!

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#230444 - 12/24/13 06:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Thank you all for your kinds encouragement. Its so easy to become blinded and think you need to do more.

Welcome Al-David. I've been a causal user of BIAB for 12 months and it has been a brilliant resource. I'd also like to give the people of this forum alot of praise because they really are friendly and very helpful. This is my main music forum for everything. It's brimming with creativity and helpfulness, whereas, in my experience, forums can be a dead experience Toontracks Forum comes to mind - no one uses it!!! smile

Thanks again for the kind comments, they do spure me on to do more songs. I did some songs in the early nineties and never got them recorded - well now thats changing.

Merry Christmas!
Paul
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#230445 - 12/24/13 06:35 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: marty c]
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Originally Posted By: marty c
Well done!!! Great message and great mix. I am like you, I always feel like I need to do just one more thing. However - Your done!

The Lord gave you a great gift. If you haven't already, time to share it with the world!

Merry Christmas!



Thanks Marty C, Well thats been my conviction - to use what talent I have for the Lord, however performing live is not a strength I have. I did lead worship for many years, always made me nervous before starting. Now, time has past where I'm not musically connected to anyone or any church at the moment. My family and I are newbies to a church in our city since September. I felt I had written very average, non special songs in the early ninties but they were special to me, hence why I sought out BIAB so I could revisit these songs. I have no idea where this will lead? I don't see a commercial venture at all and I have no opportunity to play live so my question has been - when I record my songs - then what? I guess we'll have to see! BUT the journey is alot of fun eek


Edited by PaulH (12/24/13 06:38 AM)
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#230458 - 12/24/13 09:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Beautiful song. Well sung. Awesome backtrack. Love the cello

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#230499 - 12/24/13 02:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Great work Steve, on SoundCloud!
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#230504 - 12/24/13 03:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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One thing I struggle is with mixing my voice. Listening to Cliff Richards new album today and noticed how his voice sounded just right. Not to direct but not overly done with reverb. Take a listen to how his voice is not "in your face" in the mix where mine is. I've played around with reverbs but never get that extra distance sound that you get from studio recording. Is this something unobtainable from budget home recordings?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzfLF1v5vRA
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#230643 - 12/25/13 11:51 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Nice strings ... a little too much reverb on the vocals, you have a nice voice dont hide it behind reverb.
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#230712 - 12/25/13 11:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul,

I love it. Beautifully done and kept my attention - longer songs sometimes lose me. I think your voice sounds great. I like the mix and the reverb was warm without sounding overdone to me - but

This link may help you get the vocal sound you're after. Steve is one of the premiere mixers on this board.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=162045#Post162045

Josie

PS. Check out the recordingrevolution.com and their five minutes to a better mix series on youtube - lot of good stuff there.




Edited by Sundance (12/25/13 11:52 PM)

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#230751 - 12/26/13 08:34 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul, Nice song. Well written and sung. The arranging, production and recording are excellent. The izotope plug ins may be of some help to you. Particularly the nectar vocal and the ozone mastering. You can buy them bundled. I really enjoyed this and look forward to your next post. Thanks for sharing, Tom PS Thanks to Josie for the link to Steve's tips and recording revolution.

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#230759 - 12/26/13 08:59 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Elliott Kayne]
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Originally Posted By: Elliott Kayne
Nice strings ... a little too much reverb on the vocals, you have a nice voice dont hide it behind reverb.


Hi Elliot, I was going for that "live" stage sound and having tried a number of reverbs they all sounded wrong for me, a bit too dry, lacking a bit of space but that could have been because I lack the skill - probably!

Thanks for your comments.
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#230761 - 12/26/13 09:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Sundance]
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Originally Posted By: Sundance
Paul,

I love it. Beautifully done and kept my attention - longer songs sometimes lose me. I think your voice sounds great. I like the mix and the reverb was warm without sounding overdone to me - but

This link may help you get the vocal sound you're after. Steve is one of the premiere mixers on this board.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=162045#Post162045

Josie

PS. Check out the recordingrevolution.com and their five minutes to a better mix series on youtube - lot of good stuff there.




Thanks Josie, I will check out those links. I like your song "It Is What Is Is" also.


Edited by PaulH (12/26/13 12:43 PM)
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#230766 - 12/26/13 09:14 AM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Danny C.]
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Originally Posted By: Danny C.
Paul,

Just my opinion of course, but I say you can stop tweaking right now.


Couple things I'm not completely happy with - guitar and drums, vocals could do with a bit more treatment I feel. Guitar sounds too harsh, I would like to record my own guiter as it may sound a bit warmer and less sharp. The drums intro is disappointing, I think my EZdrummer can come up with something better BUT, as I've discovered, Toontracks have marketed their products very carefully giving the impression it's cheap but it isn't. You have to keep buy upgrade midi packs to get a range of different styles. My EZdrummer has a pathetic array of drumming styles, although the ones that come with it are excellent. I need to buy some midi packs now to get the styles I'm looking for and even that's pot luck as they don't really give you many samples and don't list the styles per pack. I put a EZdrumming pattern to one of my other songs and did a A-B comparison between EZdrummer and a new style in BIAB 2014. EZdrummer sounded stereo and more realistic - nice, clear and punchy with a selection of intro's and fills. So I will be going down that route a bit more with BIAB songs.
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#230835 - 12/26/13 05:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Paul, excellent job.

I like how you build it as it goes on. You voice is smooth and fits this well. Often we are our own worst vocal critics. I, personally like a vocal that is a bit more upfront.... but that is a personal preference. I think the vox set perfectly in the mix. Not to loud and not to far back.

I initially thought 5 minutes plus was too long, however, it was over before I realized it. And P&W music doesn't have the commercial time constraints that country and other genre's have on them to fit into a play list.

Again... good job.
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#230851 - 12/26/13 06:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: I AM The Lord My Child - (Original Song) [Re: Paul Haynes]
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Hi Paul,

Your song is fantastic. The mix is spot on and the writing and performing are as good as anything I've ever heard. What stood out to me most of all was the lyric's perspective. In writing this song, you've created a very powerful composition.

Really well done!

All the best,
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