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Generally, I love the new features in BIAB 2014. As in most years, PG Music has made the upgrade worthwhile to me. However, it is still difficult to handle quarter note and sixteenth note triplets in even styles and they don't print at all. I have read the multitudes of posts about this, but it still hasn't been addressed (to my knowledge) in any of the upgrades over the years. I get it that it must be complicated programming and that BIAB is not primarily notation software, but puleeeese make this a priority for an upgrade real soon.

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Hi Tenorman
Could it be improved? Probably. But, it's not that hard to do once you get the hang of it. 8th notes or 16th notes included
1: Set the Stave into Editable Notation mode, then right-click on the timeline (above the stave).
2: The Beat Resolution dialog is displayed, then just set the resolution you want for that beat.
3: The notation is displayed according to those settings:

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Hey that's interesting, but how'd you do that with the 16th note triplet (B C C#)? What beat resolution did you use, and did you have to change the tick offset to get it correct? I've never been able to get biab to notate it correctly; quarter note and 8th note triplets are no problem, just 16th trips. - Bob

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Thank you, VideoTrack, but I just tried it and I can't make it work. Here is what I did: using an even style (4 resolution), I input sixteenth notes. Then, as you suggested, I changed the beat resolution to 3. I got triplet eighth notes. I can't figure out how to input the sixteenths so that they remain when I change the resolution. Plus, I can't get quarter note triplets at all. I feel like a total dunce about this. You obviously were able to make it work, given your examples. What am I missing?

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Thank you, VideoTrack, but I just tried it and I can't make it work. Here is what I did: using an even style (4 resolution), I input sixteenth notes. Then, as you suggested, I changed the beat resolution to 3. I got triplet eighth notes. I can't figure out how to input the sixteenths so that they remain when I change the resolution. Plus, I can't get quarter note triplets at all. I feel like a total dunce about this. You obviously were able to make it work, given your examples. What am I missing?


Thanks JazzWombat and Tenorman,

Please don't anybody feel like they can't cut it. It's actually not that easy. I don't think that you can do it using the bar / beat time signature option, even with micro resolution (which only gets down to the beat level).

I recalled some material I had recorded via midi, remembering that the score required a trill played as 16th note triplets leading into the next bar. So I found the chart, which had the 16th note triplets, and I then experimented on and changed to 1/8th note triplets using the beat resolution. That worked OK.

However, the only way I could get 16th note triplets to display was to actually record them (midi).

So I started to examine the midi data, and I then copied it by performing a step entry and managed to get the same result (16th triplet), also shown below.

So the answer as far as I am aware is: BiaB currently does not allow 1/16th note triplet notation resolution by editing the bar beat (the same way that 1/8th notes can be done). But, you can either play and record 16th note triplets, or edit the note positions and cause the display to show 16th note triplets. Be aware that the note duration is also critical for this to work.

Is this ideal? Probably not. Back to TenorMan's question: IMHO it would be much better if there was a proper method to set triplets display. This might be done if BiaB allowed micro-resolution at something less than 'beat' level.

In the meantime, maybe this workaround can be used. (But +10 to Tenorman's suggestion)

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