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#235547 - 01/16/14 11:03 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: Al-David]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Mike...

Ja, ich can noch Deutsch sprechen. Ich habe viel vergessen aber es bleibt gut genug. Wo im Deautschland wohnen Sie? Bis spater...(ich habe kein umlaut auf meinen schluessel)

Al


Hallo Al, I actually moved to the US in 1986. SO, I call this my home now. And hey, your German is still pretty darn good! smile How am I doing on my American English? LOL
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#235550 - 01/16/14 11:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker

DRUMS: the drums are fine if you can simply tame that one side stick.... it does stand out. Lower it's level or find a way to roll it's EQ off to smooth it down a bit. That side stick was really the only part of the drum kit I could hear easily on these cheap speakers.


Appreciate your input and totally agree. But, since I used RDs, I can't single out the side kick in my mix... it's got to be a one for all adjustment. I'll try my best, but totally agree with you on this one!!!

Thanks for your valuable input!


Edited by MikeK (01/16/14 11:08 PM)
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#235553 - 01/16/14 11:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Well my "old ears" love it as is, for whatever that is worth.

Also, on a side note, I think I may be in love with Yvonne.

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#235554 - 01/16/14 11:26 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: Danny C.]
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Originally Posted By: Danny C.
Well my "old ears" love it as is, for whatever that is worth.

Also, on a side note, I think I may be in love with Yvonne.

Later,


Danny, she will love your nice comment and I know she'll love you back! smile Glad you like the track, but I will take the advice from my fellow BIABers smile

Have a great one .. Yvonne is smiling already smile
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#235588 - 01/17/14 07:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Originally Posted By: MikeK
Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker

DRUMS: the drums are fine if you can simply tame that one side stick.... it does stand out. Lower it's level or find a way to roll it's EQ off to smooth it down a bit. That side stick was really the only part of the drum kit I could hear easily on these cheap speakers.


Appreciate your input and totally agree. But, since I used RDs, I can't single out the side kick in my mix... it's got to be a one for all adjustment. I'll try my best, but totally agree with you on this one!!!

Thanks for your valuable input!


Use a parametric EQ and find the center of the side stick's freq.... it's gonna be fairly high.... the put a notch on the center of that freq and pull it down... you don't have to do very much to notch it out a bit. That will get that clicking aspect out.

On the vocals, have you tried layering them? I use layering to fatten up vocals. Record 3 unique takes. Don't copy or clone. Pick the best one for the lead up the center at volume. Use your vocal pitch fixing on it and apply reverb as previously described. Pan the other 2 tracks hard opposite each other and using volume envelopes, pull them both down to around -18 to -22 db below the main vocal. You can apply a slightly heavier reverb or leave them totally dry. Experiment to see what works best for the song.

You do not want them up loud enough to where they sound like obvious double tracking. Less is more on vocal layering. This is a very common technique used in the "big" studios to give a really fat sound to all the singers voices these days. Error on the low side.... it never hurts to knock a few more db off the panned track levels.

You should only be able to hear those tracks at all if the vocal buss is soloed. In the mix they should not be readily apparent. The subconscious ear will hear them and the result is a perceived fatter vocal sound. I generally do not fix the vocals nor do I use much reverb in the tracks.

One thing to be aware of.....be absolutely sure the 2 layer tracks are as close to the main as possible. Be sure the "s's" at the ends of words are lined up.... you don't want "ghost echo's" in there, because that stuff will show up fast in a poorly synced mix.

It's possible with work, and attention to details, to get a really professional sounding vocal track at home. Good equipment also helps.

hope this helps you some towards that goal.


Edited by Guitarhacker (01/17/14 07:47 AM)
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#235637 - 01/17/14 02:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Mike,
Sorry being late to string but glad I didn't miss this one. All good comments. I really liked the song a Yvonne performance. If you make the tweaks suggested it will be even better.
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#235641 - 01/17/14 03:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Originally Posted By: MikeK
I'd really like your opinion, Any other helpful input would also be greatly appreciated smile Thanks in advance!


I gave a listen knowing I'm late to this party.
To qualify, I did not read every response so if I'm out of line ignore this post.

I perceive this to be more of a bluesy ballad.
Being a long time drummer/songwriter what immediately stuck out to me was the kick/snare rim shots.
I think they are interactively too busy, detract from the vocals and sound a bit too looped.
Personally, I would just keep those two simpler and on the beat.

I did not scrutinize any other aspect of your tune.

I'm not saying it's bad it's just my quite subjective opinion.

Hope that helps....that's my take on it.

Good luck....carry on.





Edited by chulaivet1966 (01/18/14 06:46 PM)

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#235807 - 01/18/14 05:01 PM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Thanks again for all your valuable input! Taken it to heart and did a remix... I'll be posting it soon, once Yvonne is telling me that it's a go smile
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#237849 - 01/30/14 09:33 AM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Hi Mike Ive also come late to listen to your song...two things stand out..drums are a bit to busy and the singer Yvonnes voice needs to be more upfront..its a soulful song and I would love to hear that breathy female vocal sound which would in my opinion enhance this song which I like by the way.Thanks for the listen
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#237873 - 01/30/14 10:52 AM [User Showcase] Re: So confused about the responses on this new one! [Re: MikeK]
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Mike,

I hope your surgery went well.

I liked that song quite a bit... I've tried to write a decent song in that genre and I can't seem to make it convincing.

Please tell your singer friend that I think she's awesome!

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