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BBW2.EXE is used by RealBand, I believe, to give you the BIAB features in RealBand. You're not running BIAB, per se, but RealBand does invoke BBW2.EXE as a sub-process. Sometimes you see the screen pop up, but usually it's hidden behind the RealBand screen.
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Do you have a virus?? How is the machine running other applications?
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As JFord said, that can be caused by a hidden window, but it hasn't been heard of in a while. Thought it was fixed(?)
Try approaching it from a hidden window point of view:
minimize the main window (and any others) to reveal any open windows
make sure there is no browser running
check task manager processes and see if bbw2 shows up under processes or applications
.. just a few ideas. Kudos to jford for remembering this.
Send that info about the bbw2 report to support and include the modified date of your bbw2 file in the Realband folder. Or chat. Or call.
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As JFord said, that can be caused by a hidden window, but it hasn't been heard of in a while. Thought it was fixed(?)
Try approaching it from a hidden window point of view:
minimize the main window (and any others) to reveal any open windows
make sure there is no browser running
once the problem starts, I can't minimize anything (or do much else)...
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check task manager processes and see if bbw2 shows up under processes or applications
BBW2 doesn't show up in task manager as an app, but it does show up as a process. (2nd tab) But even if I close that process, RB remains locked up beyond task manager's ability to pry it loose.
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.. just a few ideas. Kudos to jford for remembering this.
yeah, he must still have brain cells left.
I knew that BBW2 is not BIAB, and that it works with RB.. I was trying to make the point that they show up separately when I try to shut down, and RB is not the app that's locking me up by itself... on one hand, the fact that RB crashes seems to have something to do with BBW2.exe... As a test, I renamed BBW2 so it couldn't start; but the problem still occurred...
regarding CPU usage:
the problematic project actually uses less resources than other projects that don't fail.
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Send that info about the bbw2 report to support and include the modified date of your bbw2 file in the Realband folder. Or chat. Or call.
yeah, I guess it's come to that. Thanks to everybody for your ideas and suggestions.
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Do you have a virus?? How is the machine running other applications?
the word "virus" has definitely crept into my thinking. I don't have other symptoms, but it would probably be a good idea to run a scan
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Does BBW2 on task manager (process tab) show a high percent of comp use, if not what does. You might try end process on whatever is extra high. On my comp BBW2 shows 1% loading a song and 0% playing,and Realband exe shows 1% when playing a song and 20% when generating a song. System Idle is 99% when playing a song. Might help you track down whats using your comp.
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The bbw2.exe is associated with giving RB access to BIAB features such as the Styles Window. Maybe there is a problem with initialising the BIAB features???
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Help, I need closure! 
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The bbw2.exe is associated with giving RB access to BIAB features such as the Styles Window. Maybe there is a problem with initialising the BIAB features???
the BIAB features shouldn't even be in play because the tracks are already generated. It should just be a simple matter of playing back previously recorded material. Yet it chokes.
Other new projects seem to be working OK.. I'm coming to the conclusion that there's just something funky about that project, and I don't want to lose momentum by chasing down a shadow. Sometimes it's faster and easier to just abandon the work invested and start over from scratch. Which is exactly what I did.
Interestingly, Funky McProject has played through several times without stopping, and I don't know what was different when it happened. And at the moment, I don't care.
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OK, it seems I tracked MY problem down.
I (think I) realised it was dropbox. Even if the WiFi connect was disabled, DropBox was still trying to connect?
When I right hand clicked on the Dropbox Icon it showed "Connecting" but the word was sort of greyed out..
I then went to Task Manager and STOPPED the Dropbox.exe process that was running in the background.
After that, no problems. Saves ok, does not hang up anymore . Recorded 2 songs today , no stuttering, did not even reboot ever 30 minutes like I used to.
Happiness ...
I was beginning to think I am due for a new PC ....(not anymore)
I'm doing allright for Country Trash ....
I used to care, but things have changed (Bob Dylan)
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Hey, CT! Good job on tracking your problem down!
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One of the things that drives me nuts is the mouse cursor "freezing" in one place every so often. Last night on a whim I replaced the wireless mouse with a regular mouse, and the freezing seems to have abated.
I LOVE the idea of a workplace with minimal wires, so wireless KB and mouse has aesthetic appeal... but if it slows me down, its gotta go
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Pat, I recently had a similar problem with my Logitech WIFI mouse. I traced it to weak batteries out of a supposedly new batch. You might check that.
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Pat, I recently had a similar problem with my Logitech WIFI mouse. I traced it to weak batteries out of a supposedly new batch. You might check that. I did change batteries, hoping that would be the solution. Unfortunately, it still froze intermittently. I think there's something else going on above and beyond the mouse, but I haven't been able to track it down. I've been removing processes that look extraneous, but so far nothing stops the pauses.
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I had a problem with my Logitech wireless mouse locking up on my. I just put the little USB transmitter into a different USB port and it worked fine after that. Just something to think about.
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I had a problem with my Logitech wireless mouse locking up on my. I just put the little USB transmitter into a different USB port and it worked fine after that. Just something to think about. good idea! Simple and easy to try! thanks John
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Some versions of windows actually associate the port that some devices were installed on .. and if you move it you need to have another install of the drivers for that port.
Seems stupid to me, but we've seen it previously, especially with certain USB->MIDI devices.
Plug it in to another port; no joy .. reinstall drivers; success .. multiple drivers loaded for each port used were found when checked.
Wouldn't surprise me much if going back to the original physical port worked.
Or reinstalling the driver while it's on the port it's on now..
Good eye jford. I'm pretty sure you would have seen this before also.
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Hi Pat,
If you are loading the same file as saved previously at the last close, then RB does not initiate the BIAB functions because the Style name has not changed. However, should you change file and the STYLE name changes, RB does then initiate the BIAB functions automatically whether or not you intend to generate BIAB tracks.
For this reason, I have chosen a Style name which I use for all the files in development including $Options.seq to ensure that these BIAB processes are not activated unless required.
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OK, I went back to the project that was causing the aforementioned problem.
Still a problem. But I noticed there were copied MIDI tracks using the same channel which on my PERFORMING machine would have been routed to different ports on my hardware MIDI output device.
However, this was my recording machine, where I typically develop MIDI using a soft synth (no hardware MIDI outputs at all)
I deleted the MIDI tracks and the problem went away!
If I had realized that was going to happen I might have experimented a bit to learn exactly what had to change in order to fix the problem. (I'm thinking deleting all the MIDI was wayyyy overkill, but...)
Afterwards, I recreated the MIDI tracks without recreating the problem... except this time none of them sent data to the same channel.
I'm wondering if somewhere in memory there was still a reference to multiple ports, even though it didn't show up in any of the dialog boxes... and since there weren't multiple ports available on this machine, it caused a logic error for which there was no error checking...?
anyway, this may provide a starting point for anyone else who experiences similar stuttering and lockup symptoms.
The project, by the way, was a cover of the Elvin Bishop song "Fooled around and fell in love", and I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out... it's all real band except for some extensive piano-roll entered MIDI to get the signature passages, and my own guitar playing. If we ever get bitCONCERT.com off the ground, it will be one of the first songs I play there.
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OK, we've ruled out the possibility that my underwear somehow caused it... Well Pat, don't dismiss that possibility too quickly. How often do you make that change?
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