You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#253939 - 06/16/14 09:12 PM [User Showcase] First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Online   happy
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Here is a link to the first song I've completed using 2014 Band-in-a-Box and RealBand. Down In The Valley It is also the first song where I've tried to apply what I've been learning about the art and science of music production.

Styles used include: CMPFBF3.STY, _FIDSOLG.STY & _MAN65SL.STY.
RealTracks include: ~712:Bass, Acoustic, Bossa Ev 085 (A:simple), ~364:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 065, ~368:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev, Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Spirited Ev 065, Fiddle, Soloist CountryAndy Ev 065 and Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm CountryBalladJohn Ev 065.

A few notes of each instrument are midi with Hi-Q SampleTank instruments.

I welcome any comments pro or con. I believe constructive feedback is the best way to continue to grow and learn.


Edited by JimFogle (06/16/14 09:31 PM)
Edit Reason: include more info.
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2022 BiaB (923) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#253947 - 06/16/14 11:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 7213
Loc: South Carolina
Charlie Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 7213
Loc: South Carolina
Jim, it is a good first production and appears it is more complex production than it sounds. I think it is a good mix and an excellent first attempt. Good choice of instruments and your vocals are just as I remember.

Charlie
_________________________
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2022:RB 2022, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Top
#253948 - 06/16/14 11:28 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 6613
Loc: Davis, CA
Greg Johnson Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/21/13
Posts: 6613
Loc: Davis, CA
It sounds like you're catching on fast! It's an incredible program. Enjoy! Take care. Greg

Top
#253966 - 06/17/14 06:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1719
Loc: New Zealand
RichMac Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/23/10
Posts: 1719
Loc: New Zealand
Like that voice! The fiddle fits great. Enjoyed the intro and outro also. Cheers.
_________________________
https://soundcloud.com/tuigorge



Top
#253982 - 06/17/14 11:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10294
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10294
Loc: Florida
Jim,

I listened last night, but today Soundcloud just spins on your song (others don't)... anyway...

Good mix on this. And I liked the fiddle (as I recall). I like the idea of doing a traditional song - it never occurs to me to look for such things... I'll try to listen again later, but the last time this happened on a particular song, I was never able to listen... I thought Soundcloud was getting things cleaned up - and I use the old version...

floyd

Top
#254006 - 06/17/14 07:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: floyd jane]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Online   happy
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
floyd jane: Thank you for letting me know you are having trouble listening to the file. It appears something happened to it so I deleted the file and uploaded a fresh copy. I also changed settings so the song can be downloaded.

RichMac: Thank you for the compliments; especially concerning my vocal! blush

Greg Johnson: Thanks for the encouragement. The last six months have been an amazing learning process.

c_fogle: Hope you were surprised when you heard it. You don't know how many times I resisted sharing works in progress. By the way, I'm wondering if "your vocals are just as I remember" is a compliment or a back hand salute LOL.
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2022 BiaB (923) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#254026 - 06/17/14 10:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: Gulf Coast
Sundance Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: Gulf Coast
Jim, that's a great sounding first production with RB. It's got a really pretty "sheen" on it listening in my headphones without being muddy or too bright. And you did a sweet arrangement as well. A+


Josie
_________________________
Josie Beck Youtube Channel


Top
#254068 - 06/18/14 01:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 1831
gruverider Offline
Expert

Registered: 07/15/12
Posts: 1831
always a classic song, sounds to me like your mix is well balanced and I too like the fiddle. Your vocal is unconventional but so are a lot of great artists and to me that enriches the experience, and gives music and songs a deeper more engaging and personal touch.

much enjoyed!

Top
#254077 - 06/18/14 03:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2776
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2776
Loc: South Africa
Hi Jim

I hadn't heard that song before so I don't have anything to compare to but I enjoyed it. As mentioned the fiddle in the break adds a nice touch.
_________________________
Band-in-a-Box reseller https://www.joannecooper.co.za
Commission a Band-in-a-Box SGU file https://www.fiverr.com/joannecoopersa/create-a-guitar-play-along-video-for-any-song

Top
#254086 - 06/18/14 06:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3724
Loc: The Netherlands
RnAM Online   content
Veteran

Registered: 05/02/14
Posts: 3724
Loc: The Netherlands
Hello Jim,

That's very good for a first production!
You've also chosen a good set of real tracks, we especially like the sound of the strumming guitar. A good basis for the song.

Keep up the good work, and we are sure you will!

Regards,
R & AM
_________________________
We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos
http://rnam.net/



Top
#254186 - 06/20/14 05:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 07/08/03
Posts: 654
Loc: Sulphur Springs, TX
Charlie McG Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 07/08/03
Posts: 654
Loc: Sulphur Springs, TX
Great old song. Enjoyed the listen.
_________________________
"The desire for fame is the last infirmity cast off even by the wise."
Cornelius Tacitus

Top
#254206 - 06/20/14 12:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 2646
Loc: Kentucky
PgFantastic Offline
Veteran

Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 2646
Loc: Kentucky
Love the simplicity on this, in today's music world it is easy sometimes to go overboard with tracks, just because we can, LOL! Thanks for sharing!
_________________________
My Tunes

Psalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.

Top
#254207 - 06/20/14 01:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Online   happy
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Josie: Thank you for the kind remarks about the mix. "Sheen" was exactly what I was hoping to accomplish.

gruverider: I'm glad you enjoyed the song as it has always been one of favorites. I spent a lot of time to try and make my voice sound the way I'd like for it to sound in real life so your complement on the vocal is most welcome.

Joanne: Thank you for listening. The fiddle turned out to be a good choice; it didn't take a lot of "fiddling around" to match it up to the song.

Rob and Anne-Marie: Thank you for listening and commenting on my song. I greatly admire your skill with writing, performing and producing both audio and video. As a newbie to BIAB, your productions set the goal VERY high for other newcomers.

Charlie McG: I enjoy your songs and feel a kinship to the songs you do so I'm pleased you enjoyed my first song choice.

PgFantastic: I agree. Simplicity in music can be a very nice thing. Some of the most simplistic sounding songs I've heard have the most difficult production to understand. Normally, when it sounds easy, it rarely is.
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2022 BiaB (923) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#254280 - 06/20/14 11:10 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 2476
Loc: Buford, GA
MikeK Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 2476
Loc: Buford, GA
This could have well been one of Johnny Cash's songs, Jim. Your vocals kinda remind me of him a bit. At any rate, this is really well done all around. Enjoyed the listen.
_________________________
Cheers,
Mike

My Music * PC: Avatar FX8366ice AMD FX-8350(4.0GHz)16GB DDR3 6TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Win 10 21H1 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2022 UltraPak Plus - Build 923

Top
#254366 - 06/21/14 03:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: MikeK]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Online   happy
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Mike: Thanks for listening. Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins, Roseanne Cash and K.T. Oslin are some of the artists that have covered Down In The Valley. A blues artist wrote additional lyrics and recorded the song under the title, Birmingham Jail. Each version is distinctive so the song has a long and rich history.
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2022 BiaB (923) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#254370 - 06/21/14 03:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1815
Kemmrich Offline
Expert

Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 1815
Nice production and great first use of biab 2014. I think at 0:27 you might consider scaling the instruments in. By bringing everything in at once, there is nothing to change up when you go into the 2nd verse. The fiddle worked out quite well here as did the slight change in percussion during the fiddle part.

Maybe you have too many guitars in there so it is a bit sonically the same. Swap out one for a mandolin or ukulele (if the uke fits). To me everything has the same volume level all the way through. Might want to experiment with changing volumes here and there to add more sonic variety.

Now, of course, I use too many instruments all the time myself -- that's how I can see it in other folk's work (ha, ha).
_________________________
Now at bandcamp: Crows Say Vee-Eh @ bandcamp or soundcloud: Kevin @ soundcloud

Top
#254386 - 06/21/14 05:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4260
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
dani48 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4260
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Hi, Jim !:))


It has been said already, but
I do like your tune and production
really much !:)) Congrats !:))

Cheers
Dani

Top
#254392 - 06/21/14 09:07 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5966
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Al-David Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5966
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Hi Jim,

We enjoyed the simplicity of this one. We tend to agree with Kevin that you might want to introduce the full compliment of instruments in two stages. Other than that, sounds great. Nice work! best to ya ...

Alan & Di
_________________________
BIAB 2022 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar

Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops


Top
#254394 - 06/21/14 09:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: dani48]
Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Jim Fogle Online   happy
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 8775
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Kevin: Thank you for listening and your feedback. I value your comments as I admire your songs and hope to produce as well as you someday in the future. All your ideas have merit. I'm sure at some point I will revisit Down In The Valley and implement some of them.

Dani48: Thank you for listening. I appreciate it very much.

Alan and Di: Simplicity is best when attempting something new. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for listening, your encouragement and feedback.
_________________________
Jim Fogle - 2022 BiaB (923) RB (Build 4) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#254497 - 06/22/14 04:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: First Tune Using 2014 BIAB / RealBand [Re: Jim Fogle]
Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 3495
Loc: Florida
tommyad Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 3495
Loc: Florida
Sounds like you have a good handle on things. The mix is just right. Good choice of instruments. Nicely done. Tom

Top


PG Music News
How to: Select Styles, RealTracks, and MIDI SuperTracks in Band-in-a-Box®

Here's a brief overview video explaining how Styles, RealTracks, MIDI tracks, and MIDI SuperTracks function in Band-in-a-Box®, and how to select them in your project. Please let us know if you have any questions!

How to Select Styles, RealTracks, and MIDI SuperTracks in Band-in-a-Box®

How to: Associating Song Files with Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Our Tips & Tricks videos are great for quickly learning a feature within Band-in-a-Box®!

Did you know you can you can associate song files so that they open up directly in Band-in-a-Box®? Chantelle explains how in one of our latest videos, Associating Song Files with Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

The Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac Ends Sunday, July 31st!

There's still some time left to save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK, but only if you place your order before 11:59pm PDT Sunday, July 31, 2022!

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available. Need help deciding? Let us know - we're here to help!

Learn more about the new features added to Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac.

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows Review

A 5-STAR reveiew - wow!

Read what Sound-Guy (Dennis) has to say about Band-in-a-Box® 2022 with their latest review, Review: Band-in-a-Box 2022.

"Band in a Box continues to evolve as an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to compose, arrange and mix songs."
-Dennis J Wilkins

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows is eXtra Ready!

We've made Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows eXtra Ready!

Thinking of adding the new XPro Styles PAK 3 and Xtra Styles PAK 13 to your Band-in-a-Box 2022 for Windows? Download the latest program update, which adds support for these new Add-ons!

Oh, and the XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are ON SALE until July 31st... save up to 40%!

Learn more, listen to demos, and purchase:
XPro Styles PAKs
Xtra Styles PAKs

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac - Special EXTENDED to July 31st!

Great news! We've extended our Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac special until July 31st!

Order during our special and save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Mac upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK!

Purchase your copy of Band-in-a-Box® 2022 during our special and add over 50 new features and a FREE Bonus PAK! We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Mac 2022 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 60 Bonus RealTracks, MIDI SuperTracks Set 35: All Guitar, Instrumental Studies Set 17: Classic Country Guitar Soloing, Artist Performance Set 12: Songs with Vocal Volume 2, RealDrums Stems Set 2, and Look Ma! More MIDI 8) upgrade it to the 2022 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in these packages, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available. Need help deciding? Let us know - we're here to help!

How to: Connect a MIDI Keyboard and Change Patches in Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Our team has put together a video that covers how to connect a MIDI keyboard to Band-in-a-Box, record, and change MIDI patches.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® for Mac: How to connect a MIDI keyboard and change patches

Want to see a quick video tutorial that's not on our Tips & Tricks list? You can post your request to our I want a video that shows me how to .... forum.

Forum Stats
36363 Members
64 Forums
75260 Topics
661639 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
Willkho, Jesse, Appoggiatura, Ean, didongthongminh

36363 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
MarioD 184
AudioTrack 169
Matt Finley 109
rayc 101
Janice & Bud 100
Gordon Scott 94
Torrey Bliss 94
firesong 80
justanoldmuso 78
Bass Thumper 76
Today's Birthdays
pochofenix, sslechta