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#264350 - 10/03/14 08:33 PM [User Showcase] Camden town (never give up on love)
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Hello everyone,

A couple of weeks ago we went to London for a week.
We also visited Camden town. This part of London we liked best.
The atmosphere, the people, the shops. All of this kinda reminded us of...... Holland, in a way. Only a little bit more extravagant.
Anne-Marie had brought her camera. Recorded lots of footage, very suitable for our new song:

Camden town (never give up on love)

She also created the video.
This must be our most comprehensive production so far. The entire project consists of 19 tracks. Rob created this arrangement with 6 real tracks, 1 user track, 2 vsti tracks and 4 MIDI (soundfont) tracks, and an additional reversed cymbal track. And then there was the original Camden town audio intro.
The vocals: Rob:1 lead, Anne-Marie 3 backing vocal tracks. Every one of them has about 6 vst effects inserted. The entire mix was mastered with Cakewalk's Z3ta synthesizer, which is also a very good Vst mastering plug-in.

We hope you like it! As always, any comments are welcome.

Regards,
Rob & Anne-Marie

Song specifics:
Key=G , Tempo 95, Length (m:s)=4:10
Style is ALANIS1.STY (Alanis 1 - Med. Arena Rock)
MIDI Instruments: Finger Electric Bass (34), 6/4 EP Phase, GM2 Bank 4, Acoustic Piano (1), Strings (49),
RealDrums in Song: CRock8-B^1-a:HHSdstk, b:HHSnr
542 guitar electric rhythm dreamy ev 085
629 guitar electric rhythm pop American dirty ev120
680 guitar electric rhythm rock British soulful ev 085
1029 guitar 12 string electric fingerpicking ev 85
1540 guitar electric soloist popbelieve ev 16 065 1
user tracks: guitar electric mute rhythm country rock ev 120
additional VST/MIDI Tracks: Z3ta, AAS Ultra Analog, Magic SF2 soundfont


Lyrics:

Camden town

I wasn't looking, not really there
I had to find my way,
out of things we used to share
no one to look up to, no one to find
and when I looked around,
I found myself in Camden town

colorful people, hanging around
someone singing Marley,
while another's playing guitar
colors cought my eye, of the funny shop displays
shop owners are waving,
trying to get me in

no fear of losing anything
or fear of loving anyone

never give up on love

I was her lover, I was her friend
no one else got through
didn't know what else to do
I wouldn't see it coming, I couldn't see her go
till she turned to me and said
you know all love must end

you were excessive, in any way
and when our eyes met
there was nothing to be said
then you walked up to me, and as I came down
DJ Granddad waved
I found new love in Camden town

no fear of losing love again
or fear of giving in again

never give up on love

no fear of losing anything
or fear of loving anyone

never give up on love





Edited by R & AM (10/03/14 08:44 PM)
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#264356 - 10/03/14 09:16 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Hi there, loved the harmonies on this track, in fact liked everything about it. Well done and thanks for posting this.

Nels

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#264371 - 10/03/14 11:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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You guys make me feel so inadequate-posting a new great song every week!! Production/vocals/arrangement flawlessly in place, as usual. Great song, great vibe, great emotion!! Another hit! Take care. Greg

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#264376 - 10/04/14 01:33 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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This one has an "Air Supply" feel to it; another great performance and production from ya'll!
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#264385 - 10/04/14 03:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Rob and Anne Marie,

Wonderful song for 2 reasons, the beautiful tune and the pictures of Camden Town, a district, NW1, I lived in from 1968 - 76 and worked, a few doors from Camden Market, from 1975-1980 How the memories flow now!! It has changed a bit LOL.

You 2 are certainly productive and each song I hear is pure magic, nice chord changes.

Z3ta as a mastering suite eh??? must look into my old copy later.

Thanks for sharing as I really enjoyed the song and the video.
Now back to my memories of a good period in my life grin

Alyn

ps I must dig out a song written in Camden to follow!!!
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#264388 - 10/04/14 07:13 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Rob and Anne

Great number, well presented, based on a true story even!. What else could anyone ask for? !!

Really enjoyed the song. The accompanying video clip just made it that much better.

Thanks again

Great job

Trevor
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#264392 - 10/04/14 07:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: airtcon-161]
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Hi Nels,

Thank you for your very nice comment!

Regards,
R & AM
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#264396 - 10/04/14 08:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Hi Rob & Anne-Marie ...

What great song ... and video! Loved that short, one-line prechorus. The vocal harmonies were fabulous. Great production and presentation. Thanks for such a wonderful listen ... we're still smiling! Kudos!!!

Alan & Di
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#264401 - 10/04/14 08:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Loved the song and video. Very nice production and your hard work on this paid off.


Charlie
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#264409 - 10/04/14 09:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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hi rob and anne great listen love your stuff thanks for sharing eric
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#264443 - 10/04/14 12:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Hi Rob and Anne-Marie,

great song and video. I really like the harmonies.
Very enjoyable listen.

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#264445 - 10/04/14 12:17 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: gibson]
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Hi Alyn,

Thank you! Such a coincidence you've lived so nearby.
Yes, Z3ta works also very well as a Vst insert. Especially if you put it on the master section in the Cubase mixer. This thing has been such a value for the money through the years (I bought it for 75 euro couple of years ago).
It's got such a full sound, mainly because there is such a cool effect section under the hood with every preset.
If I remember correctly you are using Cubase LE? It should appear there as a Vst insert. In its main section press the 'effects' button in the lower right corner. I use the first preset of the (default factory) C Bank, dirty hollow bass. Turned off the delay section and slightly adjusted the reverb section, also did some tiny eq adjustments.

Regards,
Rob
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#264454 - 10/04/14 01:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Well done track, and a nice video to boot!
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#264469 - 10/04/14 03:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Rob and Anne-Marie,

A very cohesive sound to the production. Everything fit together nicely - blended perfectly. Terrific vocals, as always. I like the differing sections of the song.

The video is entertaining, The effect with the store angel is exceptional (almost scary).

Enjoyed it.

floyd

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#264563 - 10/05/14 10:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Great imagery in the song and, literally,
in the video. 19 tracks? Sheeesh. It'd
take me a month to mix that and I'd never
get the sheen and sparkle of your mixes.

A very effective write for the fine vocals.

You guys are a cornucopia!

Much enjoyed it.

J&B

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#264590 - 10/05/14 12:32 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Rob and Anne-Marie,

A very cohesive sound to the production. Everything fit together nicely - blended perfectly. Terrific vocals, as always. I like the differing sections of the song.

The video is entertaining, The effect with the store angel is exceptional (almost scary).

Enjoyed it.

floyd


A big +1

Your vocals were top notch, as was the video!
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#264609 - 10/05/14 04:14 PM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: RnAM]
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Great song. Great vocals. Great video. Don't know what else to say! It all works.

Really enjoyed it!

Steve
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#264685 - 10/06/14 09:05 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Thank you Greg!

By the way, there's no need to feel inadequate :D, your songs are getting better every time (we really like Destination: Paradise).


Thanks again,
Rob and Anne-Marie
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#264686 - 10/06/14 09:06 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: PgFantastic]
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Originally Posted By: PgFantastic
This one has an "Air Supply" feel to it; another great performance and production from ya'll!


Thank you Robert, this is a great compliment.
Rob and Anne-Marie
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#264687 - 10/06/14 09:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Camden town (never give up on love) [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thank you Trevor!

This song took quite some time to finish. So did the video, which by the way was recorded by us.
DJ Grandad, featured in the video, placed it on his own Facebook. This gave us quite some views laugh !

Regards,
Rob & Anne-Marie
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