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#271248 - 11/29/14 08:07 AM
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This one features the vocal stylings of Janice Merritt and the Pedal Steel Guitar of Tom Adams. All comments/suggestions encouraged. Thanks, Tom http://tommyadamsmusic.com/musichttp://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12983821Style MIDI Instruments are : Acoustic Bass (33), RealTracks in song: 2167:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Country12-8John Sw 065 RealTracks in song: ~529:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Hank Sw 065 RealTracks in song: 1884:Piano, Acoustic, Soloist Country12-8John Sw 065 (Bluesy) RealTracks in song: 1884:Piano, Acoustic, Soloist Country12-8John Sw 065 (Bluesy) RealDrums: RealDrums in Song: Nashville128^09-a,b:Snare A Way To Say Goodbye Happy, Why can’t I be happy I wish that we could make up Cause every time I wake up I find that you’re no longer by my side Sunshine how I long to feel the sunshine Warming up my heart Never spent much time apart Now everyone sees sadness in my eyes The time has come for me to find a way to live and not cry You’re no longer mine Guess it’s a sign I need to find a way to say goodbye Lovers We always made good lovers Now I’ve come to know not so long ago That was easier to be Memories all that's left are memories Frozen there in time That no one else will find Only there for you and me The time has come for me to find a way to live and not cry You’re no longer mine Guess it’s a sign I need to find a way to say goodbye ©2014 Thomas Adams/Janice Merritt
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#271258 - 11/29/14 09:12 AM
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Hearing this song, it is easy to imagine the likes of legends Patsy Cline, Buddy Emmons and Floyd Cramer jammin this song together. Great traditional country music performed perfectly and authentically with some live instruments included. Stunning vocals by Janice. This song has it all.
"Happy--- This song makes me Happy ---"
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#271262 - 11/29/14 09:33 AM
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I agree with Charlie. The performances really stand out on this one. I especially liked the pedal steel throughout. Very nicely done.
-Jeff
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#271269 - 11/29/14 09:52 AM
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WOW Tom, I guess I never realized you played the pedal steel too! Listening to the track I thought to myself "that pedal steel fits right in-seems totally custom" and IT WAS! Really pretty song, and Janice was her usual brilliant self. Great stuff! And, of course when it ended, I had to give MORE another listen-it's one of my favorite independent tracks that I've ever heard. Keep it up guys! Take care. Greg
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#271321 - 11/29/14 01:37 PM
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Bartender.........
I'll have another. Make it a double.
All you need now is low lights, some neon and smoke.
Very Nice.
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Bob
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#271354 - 11/29/14 06:13 PM
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WOW Tom, I guess I never realized you played the pedal steel too! Listening to the track I thought to myself "that pedal steel fits right in-seems totally custom" and IT WAS! Really pretty song, and Janice was her usual brilliant self. Great stuff! And, of course when it ended, I had to give MORE another listen-it's one of my favorite independent tracks that I've ever heard. Keep it up guys! Take care. Greg Well said! I agree 100% Bartender.........I'll have another. Make it a double. All you need now is low lights, some neon and smoke.
Very Nice. that perfectly sums up the mood this song creates! man! You two have MAGIC when you tackle a project together! This song makes 100% successful songs in a row!! I bet when y'all look in the mirror your teeth sparkle and everything! And WHATCHEWTALKINBOUT??? Pedal Steel too?? DAYum!! If this was American Idol, you'd be winning in multiple categories at the same time! And Janice.. do you drink something special to make your voice so smooth?? If so, guard the ingredients with your life! as always, call me... "totally blown away"
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#271417 - 11/30/14 05:31 AM
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Hearing this song, it is easy to imagine the likes of legends Patsy Cline, Buddy Emmons and Floyd Cramer jammin this song together. Great traditional country music performed perfectly and authentically with some live instruments included. Stunning vocals by Janice. This song has it all.
"Happy--- This song makes me Happy ---"
Charie Charlie, Hey thanks for all that. Those three are some of my all time favorites. glad it made you happy. Tom I agree with Charlie. The performances really stand out on this one. I especially liked the pedal steel throughout. Very nicely done.
-Jeff Jeff, Thanks for your comments. The steel is a work in progress. I have played for 40 years, but I have been having difficulty getting a recorded sound that I can live with. Thanks again, Tom
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#271448 - 11/30/14 06:44 AM
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The steel is a work in progress. I have played for 40 years, but I have been having difficulty getting a recorded sound that I can live with. Tommy, have you tried putting a mic in front of your amp when you play? as opposed to making a direct connection between the pedal steel and your audio interface? Speaking for myself, I am NEVER happy with the way my guitar sounds through a direct connection... but with a mic on the amp it loses all the digital rough edges (to my ear anyway)
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#271480 - 11/30/14 08:27 AM
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WOW Tom, I guess I never realized you played the pedal steel too! Listening to the track I thought to myself "that pedal steel fits right in-seems totally custom" and IT WAS! Really pretty song, and Janice was her usual brilliant self. Great stuff! And, of course when it ended, I had to give MORE another listen-it's one of my favorite independent tracks that I've ever heard. Keep it up guys! Take care. Greg Greg, Thanks for giving it a spin and for your kind words. And thank you again for all the great things you said about my last song More. I appreciate it. Tom Bartender.........
I'll have another. Make it a double.
All you need now is low lights, some neon and smoke.
Very Nice.
Regards,
Bob Bob, That says it all. I'll have another too! Thanks, Tom WOW Tom, I guess I never realized you played the pedal steel too! Listening to the track I thought to myself "that pedal steel fits right in-seems totally custom" and IT WAS! Really pretty song, and Janice was her usual brilliant self. Great stuff! And, of course when it ended, I had to give MORE another listen-it's one of my favorite independent tracks that I've ever heard. Keep it up guys! Take care. Greg Well said! I agree 100% Bartender.........I'll have another. Make it a double. All you need now is low lights, some neon and smoke.
Very Nice. that perfectly sums up the mood this song creates! man! You two have MAGIC when you tackle a project together! This song makes 100% successful songs in a row!! I bet when y'all look in the mirror your teeth sparkle and everything! And WHATCHEWTALKINBOUT??? Pedal Steel too?? DAYum!! If this was American Idol, you'd be winning in multiple categories at the same time! And Janice.. do you drink something special to make your voice so smooth?? If so, guard the ingredients with your life! as always, call me... "totally blown away" Pat, Thanks for all the nice things you have said about our work together. Janice is truly gifted and she and Bud have become great friends. BIAB has given me a lot more than just music. Tom The steel is a work in progress. I have played for 40 years, but I have been having difficulty getting a recorded sound that I can live with. Tommy, have you tried putting a mic in front of your amp when you play? as opposed to making a direct connection between the pedal steel and your audio interface? Speaking for myself, I am NEVER happy with the way my guitar sounds through a direct connection... but with a mic on the amp it loses all the digital rough edges (to my ear anyway) Pat, I have tried it all on this tone quest. Miked, Direct, Clean, Processed, Preamp only, Miked and direct at the same time, etc. I am now approaching it from a different angle - got a new pickup coming. One of these days I'll get it right. I've got to lose the mid range honk and when I tried to EQ it out it was only getting worse. I have several more songs in the pipeline waiting on steel, but they are on hold until I figure this out. Thanks for the suggestion. Tom
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#271484 - 11/30/14 08:42 AM
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Tom and Janice,
I can see the Patsy Cline vibe....beautiful.
That Janice certainly has a STUNNING voice.
That pedal steel was really nice, you made that instrument talk and cry and it compliments Janice SO well.
Maybe you could try to process it as a vocal, with a "smile curve" on the parametric eq.
Together you make music, in the true sense of the word music.
Alyn
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#271531 - 11/30/14 10:46 AM
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"Pat, I have tried it all on this tone quest. Miked, Direct, Clean, Processed, Preamp only, Miked and direct at the same time, etc. I am now approaching it from a different angle - got a new pickup coming. One of these days I'll get it right. I've got to lose the mid range honk and when I tried to EQ it out it was only getting worse. I have several more songs in the pipeline waiting on steel, but they are on hold until I figure this out. Thanks for the suggestion. Tom"
Tom, your musicianship, writing, arranging and production skills are at the very top of the heap here on the BiaB forum. That being said, the pedal steel is a very complicated instrument utilizing non-standard tuning that I would imagine sometimes even test the skills of industry mixing experts.
With the consistent quality you and then you along with Janice and Bud bring to the forum, in my opinion, your work is of such value to lead me to suggest you consider finding an engineer you could submit wav files to get "that" right sound for your pedal steel. Maybe more expensive than a new preamp or pickup. Your recordings are some of the cleanest recordings here. Just the thought of more of your work on hold in the pipeline compelled me to speak out. Just the very thought.... just sayin' man.......
Besides, it's an easy way to pick the engineers brain on techniques and tricks.
( I'll go along with your judgement on the pedal steel sound you desire but I can't find fault in what I've already heard from you. )
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#271604 - 11/30/14 01:52 PM
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Tom and Janice,
I can see the Patsy Cline vibe....beautiful.
That Janice certainly has a STUNNING voice.
That pedal steel was really nice, you made that instrument talk and cry and it compliments Janice SO well.
Maybe you could try to process it as a vocal, with a "smile curve" on the parametric eq.
Together you make music, in the true sense of the word music.
Alyn Alyn, I agree with you regarding Janice. To me she is beyond compare. Along with her great voice , her sense of melody is another important element to these songs. Good idea about the smile. That has always been my go to setting on final mastering. I appreciate the input. Tom
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#271605 - 11/30/14 01:52 PM
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"Memories all that's left are memories
Frozen there in time
That no one else will find
Only there for you and me"
Nice.
"The time has come for me to find
a way to live and not cry
You’re no longer mine Guess it’s a sign
I need to find a way to say goodbye"
Very nice.
The melody at "not cry" is exceptional.
Everything about this captures that "Patsy thing" perfectly. The arrangement is dead-on. The mix is, of course, perfect.
No one better to sing this type of song! Janice, you nailed this. (But... we all KNEW you would!!!)
Tom the steel sounds great to me. (Cannot imagine how hard that must be to do...)
A great listen....
floyd
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#271647 - 11/30/14 03:45 PM
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Hearing this song, it is easy to imagine the likes of legends Patsy Cline, Buddy Emmons and Floyd Cramer jammin this song together. Great traditional country music performed perfectly and authentically with some live instruments included. Stunning vocals by Janice. This song has it all.
"Happy--- This song makes me Happy ---"
Charie Charlie, Patsy Cline? Wow, that is high praise. Thank you! Janice WOW Tom, I guess I never realized you played the pedal steel too! Listening to the track I thought to myself "that pedal steel fits right in-seems totally custom" and IT WAS! Really pretty song, and Janice was her usual brilliant self. Great stuff! And, of course when it ended, I had to give MORE another listen-it's one of my favorite independent tracks that I've ever heard. Keep it up guys! Take care. Greg Hey Greg, yes! Tom's steel was perfect and really set the mood. And thanks a bunch for commenting on my vocal. Janice Bartender.........
I'll have another. Make it a double.
All you need now is low lights, some neon and smoke.
Very Nice.
Regards,
Bob Thank you Bob. You set the scene very well! Janice
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#271653 - 11/30/14 04:00 PM
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This is quality from the first note to the last.
The steel tone sounds good. Quite often we are our own worst critics. I felt the same way about my tone and playing for a very long time.... don't give it a second thought. This is nice tone....and I LOVED how the piano picked up and ended the steel solo... nice production call.
Janet's sultry singing style shines on this....in classic Patsy Cline fashion.
As a guitarist, the only thing I felt this was lacking was a nice hot picker to throw in some real fills and half of the solo...... That would have balanced it a bit and not made it so much of a "steel" song. I love using production chops that alternate two lead instruments ... often one per verse on the fills.
Either way, this is a great song.... well done.
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#271756 - 12/01/14 09:15 AM
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Hi Tom,
a great song. Janice's voice brilliant as always.
I like your steel. Can't find anything disturbing
in the sound.
Several enjoyable listens.
Guenter
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#271774 - 12/01/14 10:55 AM
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I clicked the SoundClick link in hopes that this goes to #1 where it belongs.
A stunning production, I love the mix and the song. Radio ready.
Janice, the emotion and dynamics in your vocal, bending those notes, captivating, smooth, wow!
Tom, you too, wow! The RT's are just right and that steel puts this in the big leagues.
Bravo!!
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#271819 - 12/01/14 02:12 PM
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"Pat, I have tried it all on this tone quest. Miked, Direct, Clean, Processed, Preamp only, Miked and direct at the same time, etc. I am now approaching it from a different angle - got a new pickup coming. One of these days I'll get it right. I've got to lose the mid range honk and when I tried to EQ it out it was only getting worse. I have several more songs in the pipeline waiting on steel, but they are on hold until I figure this out. Thanks for the suggestion. Tom"
Tom, your musicianship, writing, arranging and production skills are at the very top of the heap here on the BiaB forum. That being said, the pedal steel is a very complicated instrument utilizing non-standard tuning that I would imagine sometimes even test the skills of industry mixing experts.
With the consistent quality you and then you along with Janice and Bud bring to the forum, in my opinion, your work is of such value to lead me to suggest you consider finding an engineer you could submit wav files to get "that" right sound for your pedal steel. Maybe more expensive than a new preamp or pickup. Your recordings are some of the cleanest recordings here. Just the thought of more of your work on hold in the pipeline compelled me to speak out. Just the very thought.... just sayin' man.......
Besides, it's an easy way to pick the engineers brain on techniques and tricks.
( I'll go along with your judgement on the pedal steel sound you desire but I can't find fault in what I've already heard from you. )
Charlie Charlie, Thanks for all those nice things that you said. I sure do like to hear that. That is a good suggestion about the engineer- I know a couple of guys. I will run it past them. Tom "Memories all that's left are memories
Frozen there in time
That no one else will find
Only there for you and me"
Nice.
"The time has come for me to find
a way to live and not cry
You’re no longer mine Guess it’s a sign
I need to find a way to say goodbye"
Very nice.
The melody at "not cry" is exceptional.
Everything about this captures that "Patsy thing" perfectly. The arrangement is dead-on. The mix is, of course, perfect.
No one better to sing this type of song! Janice, you nailed this. (But... we all KNEW you would!!!)
Tom the steel sounds great to me. (Cannot imagine how hard that must be to do...)
A great listen....
floyd
floyd, Thanks for listening and commenting. You know we appreciate every thing you have to say.
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#272030 - 12/02/14 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: JPeden73 I agree with Charlie. The performances really stand out on this one. I especially liked the pedal steel throughout. Very nicely done. -Jeff Thanks Jeff! Janice Originally Posted By: Pat Marr ! man! You two have MAGIC when you tackle a project together! This song makes 100% successful songs in a row!! I bet when y'all look in the mirror your teeth sparkle and everything! And WHATCHEWTALKINBOUT??? Pedal Steel too?? DAYum!! If this was American Idol, you'd be winning in multiple categories at the same time! And Janice.. do you drink something special to make your voice so smooth?? If so, guard the ingredients with your life! as always, call me... "totally blown away" Aw Pat, you are so sweet to say that. The ingredients are the support of Bud and people on this forum in making me feel good about my transition from just singing bluegrass. Thanks again! Janice Tom and Janice,
I can see the Patsy Cline vibe....beautiful.
That Janice certainly has a STUNNING voice.
That pedal steel was really nice, you made that instrument talk and cry and it compliments Janice SO well.
Maybe you could try to process it as a vocal, with a "smile curve" on the parametric eq.
Together you make music, in the true sense of the word music.
Alyn I can't describe how much a comment like this means to Janice. You would have to see her face when I read it to her! Bud
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#272119 - 12/03/14 09:14 AM
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This is quality from the first note to the last.
The steel tone sounds good. Quite often we are our own worst critics. I felt the same way about my tone and playing for a very long time.... don't give it a second thought. This is nice tone....and I LOVED how the piano picked up and ended the steel solo... nice production call.
Janet's sultry singing style shines on this....in classic Patsy Cline fashion.
As a guitarist, the only thing I felt this was lacking was a nice hot picker to throw in some real fills and half of the solo...... That would have balanced it a bit and not made it so much of a "steel" song. I love using production chops that alternate two lead instruments ... often one per verse on the fills.
Either way, this is a great song.... well done. Herb, I'm glad you like this one. I have been of the school of splitting fills and leads with guitar and steel, but this one I wanted only piano and steel. Thanks for commenting. Tom Hi Tom,
a great song. Janice's voice brilliant as always.
I like your steel. Can't find anything disturbing
in the sound.
Several enjoyable listens.
Guenter Guenter, Thanks for listening and offering the kind words. Tom
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We've applied some updates to a variety of Add-ons, improved transcriptions and simple tags, resolved playback issues with MIDI tracks, and more. Plus, this free update adds the latest DAW Plugin 3.46!
Learn more & download now.
Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Polish for Windows is Here!
Efektem naszej ciężkiej pracy w ostatnim czasie jest m.in. dodanie 80 nowych funkcji i wspaniałej kolekcji nowych dodatków i zawartości, które obejmują 202 RealTracks, nowe RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Studia Instrumentalne, Wykonania Artystów, dodatkowe RealDrums "Pojedyncze ", transkrypcje RealDrums, pakiet MultiStyles PAK 1, Pakiet Xtra Styles PAK 10 i wiele innych!
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Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Dutch for Windows is Here!
We zijn bezig geweest en hebben 80 nieuwe functies toegevoegd en een verbazingwekkende collectie van nieuwe inhoud, inclusief 202 RealTracks, nieuwe RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumentale Studies, Artiest Uitvoeringen, Bonus RealDrums "Singles", RealDrums transcripties, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Stijlen PAK 10 en meer!
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Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Danish for Windows is Here!
Vi har haft travlt, og har tilføjet 80 nye funktioner og en fantastisk samling af nyt indhold, bl.a. 202 RealTracks, nye RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, bonus RealDrums "Singles," RealDrums transsriptioner, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Styles PAK 10 og meget mere!
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Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows Update Available!
Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Swedish for Windows is Here!
Vi har varit flitiga och lagt till över 80 nya funktioner och en fantastisk samling av nytt innehåll, innefattande 202 RealTracks, nya RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Bonus RealDrums "Singles," RealDrums transcriptions, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Styles PAK 10, med mera!
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