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For the reason cited by Musiclover two posts above, I concur that one should not give the names of RealTrack artists in your credits as if they were actually present in the recording studio. In fact, I recall a guideline from PG Music that said as much.



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That certainly made me smile Bob, good one...:)

But in all earnest, I do believe if you start crediting a computer program on your song, the ones that your write yourself, you could well end up with someone thinking that even the song itself was written by the program.

Some folks have no knowledge at all about what is and isn't possible as regards music and computers and a lot won't even care about who or what backed you up, on your song so why confuse them more telling them that a lot of the music was generated by a computer program?

A lot won't care, or are too drunk to care, you know that when you gig, but a lot of others could well take the wrong meaning.

Now where is the Song name generator in biab 2015, I can't for the life of me think of a name for my next song!

smile

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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
For the reason cited by Musiclover two posts above, I concur that one should not give the names of RealTrack artists in your credits as if they were actually present in the recording studio. In fact, I recall a guideline from PG Music that said as much.






Matt - I agree entirely. That was not my suggestion.

“If so, then you have a great opportunity to promote PG Music, and introduce new musicians to the program.”

I would never credit a musician without written permission. I just thought it might be nice if people gave a nod to the “Founder Of The Feast”, as it were. If I heard a great demo that had a link to PG Music, I would investigate it.

There are a ton of people (I once was one) who checked out BIAB years ago, played some MIDI demos through a cheap onboard soundcard and said....”Meh.” That same musician, upon hearing Real Track demos, might very well be interested in buying the program.




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That certainly made me smile Bob, good one...:)

But in all earnest, I do believe if you start crediting a computer program on your song, the ones that your write yourself, you could well end up with someone thinking that even the song itself was written by the program.

Some folks have no knowledge at all about what is and isn't possible as regards music and computers and a lot won't even care about who or what backed you up, on your song so why confuse them more telling them that a lot of the music was generated by a computer program?

A lot won't care, or are too drunk to care, you know that when you gig, but a lot of others could well take the wrong meaning.

Now where is the Song name generator in biab 2015, I can't for the life of me think of a name for my next song!

smile

Musiclover





IMO, ever since Autotune became notorious, most people assume that the music was all done with a computer program. Pretty safe assumption. A lot of it has been in the last 10 years.

Gotta run. Working on MY new song...."ME!" grin


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Thanks Bob / 90; I'm all for giving PG Music credit! If I recall correctly, that same advice from them gave a possible suggested wording of how to give credit to the company for the additional sounds. I just don't remember the specific language now.

Just as Mario mentioned awhile ago, I also use BIAB in my signature on other forums. It often leads to requests for further info. I'm proud to do so.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Thanks Bob / 90; I'm all for giving PG Music credit! If I recall correctly, that same advice from them gave a possible suggested wording of how to give credit to the company for the additional sounds. I just don't remember the specific language now.

Just as Mario mentioned awhile ago, I also use BIAB in my signature on other forums. It often leads to requests for further info. I'm proud to do so.




Hey - you're BetaMan. With your connections, could you get us a PG logo we can use as a link? grin

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My connections, and a dollar fifty, will get you across our local bridge over the Hudson.




A buck and a half to cross a bridge? One that doesn't even go into NEW YORK CITY???? shocked

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Originally Posted By: 90 dB

There are a ton of people (I once was one) who checked out BIAB years ago, played some MIDI demos through a cheap onboard soundcard and said....”Meh.” That same musician, upon hearing Real Track demos, might very well be interested in buying the program.




Regards,

Bob




Bob I will add that same musician hearing some of BiaB's MIDI tracks through a good sound source may also be interested in buying the program.


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Agreed, Jim. I don't know how to entice visitors to the Users' Showcase. I think visitors tend to gravitate to Off Topic for some reason. I base that on the snowballing view count.


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I asked the question specifically to PG about mentioning artists in our credits and was told in no uncertain terms they do NOT want us to mention any RealTracks artists in our credits.

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Originally Posted By: 90 dB
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That certainly made me smile Bob, good one...:)

But in all earnest, I do believe if you start crediting a computer program on your song, the ones that your write yourself, you could well end up with someone thinking that even the song itself was written by the program.

Some folks have no knowledge at all about what is and isn't possible as regards music and computers and a lot won't even care about who or what backed you up, on your song so why confuse them more telling them that a lot of the music was generated by a computer program?

A lot won't care, or are too drunk to care, you know that when you gig, but a lot of others could well take the wrong meaning.

Now where is the Song name generator in biab 2015, I can't for the life of me think of a name for my next song!

smile

Musiclover






IMO, ever since Autotune became notorious, most people assume that the music was all done with a computer program. Pretty safe assumption. A lot of it has been in the last 10 years.

Gotta run. Working on MY new song...."ME!" grin



Funny story about Autotune, was in my cousins car one day, driving along talking about how good his car was running and listening to the radio, Cher's song believe came on and I just said "autotune" though it was Melodyne that was used to get the effects in that song.

My cousin looked at me and with a serious look in his face said "I don't think my car has that feature"

I just kept quiet, he was none the wiser...lol

Most people not involved in music making in my opinion wouldn't have a clue either.

smile

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
I asked the question specifically to PG about mentioning artists in our credits and was told in no uncertain terms they do NOT want us to mention any RealTracks artists in our credits.




I never suggested mentioning artists. What I said was:

"crediting BIAB".

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I'm sure BIAB would prefer not to be mentioned on some of my efforts! Cheers.

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I asked the question specifically to PG about mentioning artists in our credits and was told in no uncertain terms they do NOT want us to mention any RealTracks artists in our credits.




I never suggested mentioning artists. What I said was:

"crediting BIAB".

my comment was in response to someone who suggested listing the artists.

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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
I asked the question specifically to PG about mentioning artists in our credits and was told in no uncertain terms they do NOT want us to mention any RealTracks artists in our credits.




I never suggested mentioning artists. What I said was:

"crediting BIAB".

my comment was in response to someone who suggested listing the artists.





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