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You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Well I had to check a dictionary to find out what "obstreperous" means. I didn't even learn that word in Latin. From the Latin "obstrepere". http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=obstrepere&la=latin
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6) Totally ignore a list of "5 things to never say in a song". If you're writing a song, you should say whatever you wish to say.
After all, it's your song.
I've always HATED formulaic approaches to writing a song. Does anyone want to take a guess at why all of the commercial sh*t sounds the same?
Maybe it's because of all of the bullsh*t videos and and books telling people how to write a song!
If you don't know how to write a song without a tutorial, maybe you shouldn't be writing songs.
Musical skills are learned from studying theory, scales, chords and arpeggios.Then learn all of the songs you like. Screw what everyone else likes. Just learn all of the ones you want to play. The other ones come easy.
Songwriting skills should be learned by writing songs and figuring out what sucks and what dosen't suck. Not following some formula.
......Unless of course you WANT your songs to sound like everyone else's. Do the world a favor and write your own friggin' song without the use of a tutorial, video or book. Very well said! +1000 YUP add a million or two from me. Alyn
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6) Totally ignore a list of "5 things to never say in a song". If you're writing a song, you should say whatever you wish to say.
After all, it's your song.
I've always HATED formulaic approaches to writing a song. Does anyone want to take a guess at why all of the commercial sh*t sounds the same?
Maybe it's because of all of the bullsh*t videos and and books telling people how to write a song!
If you don't know how to write a song without a tutorial, maybe you shouldn't be writing songs.
Musical skills are learned from studying theory, scales, chords and arpeggios.Then learn all of the songs you like. Screw what everyone else likes. Just learn all of the ones you want to play. The other ones come easy.
Songwriting skills should be learned by writing songs and figuring out what sucks and what dosen't suck. Not following some formula.
......Unless of course you WANT your songs to sound like everyone else's. Do the world a favor and write your own friggin' song without the use of a tutorial, video or book. Very well said! +1000 YUP add a million or two from me. Alyn I just write down what the voices tell me to.
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But obstreperous is what 'rock-n-roll" is all about ..
it's kinda hard to rhyme though
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Don't you remember the famous punk rocker, Johnny Obstreperous? 
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You can forget obstreperous, if looking for rhyming words, you will be a little bit stuck at finding them for "Month" and "Orange". Also a few other words I can't at the moment recall.
"So forgive me for being obstreperous,
I am looking for some words
as there is none that rhyme with orange
that is only for the birds
And as for one for month there isn't much at all
It can really drive you insane
and to bang your head on the wall,
So writing stuff about it, it should be nice and plain
that writing about not rhyming
Is only just in vain.
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As well as Month and orange, there are
Bulb
Silver
Angel
Ninth
A Google search showed heaps more, it just depends how pedantic one needs to be.
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" It's fun to be in a position to not care about such things."
+1 from me. Fun thread though. Cheers.
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Wow David, you did well to find that!!!!
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As well as Month and orange, there are
Bulb
Silver
Angel
Ninth
A Google search showed heaps more, it just depends how pedantic one needs to be.
"Angel" can be handled if you change the soft "g" to a hard "g". The choices are limited, but here's a few. Tangle Mangle Bangle Rangle
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"Angel" can be handled if you change the soft "g" to a hard "g". The choices are limited, but here's a few.
Tangle
Mangle
Bangle
Rangle
Hi Bob I think you're confusing Angel with "Angle" (as in 45 degrees) and not "Angel", as in heavenly with wings. They're pronounced differently. And to Herb, sorry, this thread seems to have gotten pretty badly hijacked. Apologies... What can I say?
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Hi Bob
I think you're confusing Angel with "Angle" (as in 45 degrees) and not "Angel", as in heavenly with wings. They're pronounced differently. I guess you didn't catch the part about the hard g and the soft g, .....or maybe you don't know what that means. sheesh! “I cut the heart out of a fallen angel Now with guilt I’ll have to tangle” Also, thanks for pointing out that "angle" and "angel" are pronounced differently. I never would have figured that out on my own. But wait, ... that comes back to a hard g and a soft g doesn't it? Maybe I'm not as stupid as you insinuated.
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I guess you didn't catch the part about the hard g and the soft g, .....or maybe you don't know what that means.
sheesh!
“I cut the heart out of a fallen angel
Now with guilt I’ll have to tangle”
Also, thanks for pointing out that "angle" and "angel" are pronounced differently. I never would have figured that out on my own.
But wait, ... that comes back to a hard g and a soft g doesn't it? Maybe I'm not as stupid as you insinuated. Bob Heavens no. I think your reply is overly sensitive and a bit unfair. I never ever wanted to suggest anything that might be related to anyone's level of common sense. Yep, I am intelligent and I do understand what you mean by soft g and hard g Simply put, Angel and Angle are pronounced differently, but I didn't invent either of those words or how they were to be pronounced. Moreover, I didn't have any part of developing the English Language, so please don't try to pin that one on me. Things like: To, Two, Too. And Whether the Weather will be sunny. Sheeeesh. And boy, I sure never insinuated what you said. That's just not how the team works here, is it? It was never meant to be a criticism, it was a clarification, so don't be too sensitive, please. Forget I ever mentioned any word that starts with 'A', OK? Peace, OK?
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I'm not being overly sensitive. A 5 year old knows that angel and angle are pronounced differently.
Your comment was a blatant insult.
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I'm not being overly sensitive. A 5 year old knows that angel and angle are pronounced differently.
Your comment was a blatant insult.
Nothing more to add. End of discussion please.
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orange rhymes with tango if you pronounce it like orango.
Hey, I played a 5-song set yesterday on streetjelly. It had been like a year and I had trouble getting the technicals sounding OK. I even rhymed a few words. I need to start doing that again.
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Just last Monday I peeled an orange In the blender it was a torrent 
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Angel: change you'll
stayin' chill
sayin', Jill
and you'll
pain gel
But where's the fun in exact rhymes?
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