Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
Many of you will have heard Andy, one of our students, sing on here before and this is a track which we wrote together. The project was done from start to finish in Powertracks, basically because we played in all the tracks instead of using RTs. You all know by now that I'm a big fan of the Powertracks mixer and it played a big part in putting this song together. It might not sound like it, but we used up all 48 tracks! Each section of BVs had it's own sub-mix with separate dynamics and reverb routed to the sub-bus and the lead vocal occupied three different tracks, again with different effects and with volume and effects automation. The lead vocal and acoustic guitar is Andy and I'm doing the BVs, electric guitars and keyboards. The electric piano and fretless bass are Forte, the Hammond is Trio and the cellos are Edirol Orchestral. The effects are mainly PG music with an Antress balancing amp on the main output bus. No Matter WhatIf you ever want to love me If you ever decide to take a chance You know I will be waiting All it takes is just one glance If you ever need a lover Or maybe just a friend to hold your hand Come on over, baby It takes two, lets make a stand No matter what, you'll always have a friend in me. My heart it yearns for you There ain't nothing that I want to do You're the only one for me Take my hand and I'll make you see If you ever see the sunrise And don't want to watch it on your own All you do is call me You'll find my number on your phone If you ever get that feeling And your favourite song is on the air If you need to share it Call my name and I'll be there Many thanks to all who have the time to listen. ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,099
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,099 |
I really enjoyed this one. Excellent production. I'll be listening a few more times this afternoon.
Charlie
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079 |
ROG, Vocals sound nice, very nice and I like the break-down just before the guitar solo starts. Interesting mix ideas about 3 vocal tracks. Were they 3 separate takes or 3 copies? Hmm anyway that has started me thinking about my vocals! Anyway I am very glad I listened to that, very glad I have a "see how good a song is" test. I open the door, wind up the song loud and wait for a neighbour to say something and I got a reaction today, the FIRST!!! Next door's Husky started howling. or was he singing along up to your normal high standards ROG Alyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
I really enjoyed this one. Excellent production. I'll be listening a few more times this afternoon.
Charlie Thanks, Charlie. Listening more than once is the best complement! ROG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,099
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,099 |
I really enjoyed this one. Excellent production. I'll be listening a few more times this afternoon.
Charlie Thanks, Charlie. Listening more than once is the best complement! ROG Quite rewarding too, ROG. I begin to hear some of the nuances after several listens in and come away even more amazed at the product you and your students accomplish with each submission. Charlie
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
ROG, Vocals sound nice, very nice and I like the break-down just before the guitar solo starts. Interesting mix ideas about 3 vocal tracks. Were they 3 separate takes or 3 copies? Hmm anyway that has started me thinking about my vocals! Anyway I am very glad I listened to that, very glad I have a "see how good a song is" test. I open the door, wind up the song loud and wait for a neighbour to say something and I got a reaction today, the FIRST!!! Next door's Husky started howling. or was he singing along up to your normal high standards ROG Alyn Hi Alyn. The way we did Andy's vocal was to record the verse, the pre-chorus and then the chorus, each on separate tracks. This made the mix easier, as we needed different volumes, dynamics and effects on each part of the song. We'd never have done this if we'd had a restriction on the track count, as we would have had in the days when we worked with tape. Thanks for the listen, the nice comments and I hope the dog wasn't too distressed. ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,079 |
ROG, Vocals sound nice, very nice and I like the break-down just before the guitar solo starts. Interesting mix ideas about 3 vocal tracks. Were they 3 separate takes or 3 copies? Hmm anyway that has started me thinking about my vocals! Anyway I am very glad I listened to that, very glad I have a "see how good a song is" test. I open the door, wind up the song loud and wait for a neighbour to say something and I got a reaction today, the FIRST!!! Next door's Husky started howling. or was he singing along up to your normal high standards ROG Alyn Hi Alyn. The way we did Andy's vocal was to record the verse, the pre-chorus and then the chorus, each on separate tracks. This made the mix easier, as we needed different volumes, dynamics and effects on each part of the song. We'd never have done this if we'd had a restriction on the track count, as we would have had in the days when we worked with tape. Thanks for the listen, the nice comments and I hope the dog wasn't too distressed. ROG. Thanks for the vocal info, sensible really, Why hadn't I thought of that! Congratulate Andy on a good lead vocal. No Nuke the Husky always howls when he is let out , this time his timing was perfect. I too have just listened again, door closed this time LOL Alyn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,694 |
ROG and Andy...
Nice job. That opening is sweet! Very much a signature ROG sound.
Cool melody on this - a little bit Henley, a little bit Grass Roots...
I like that little crack that Andy has in his vocals...
That lead really sings! Nice! Super tone.
Enjoyed a few listens...
floyd
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,892
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 6,892 |
Really love the feel of this!! Sort of a Neal Young rocker. Drums sound very BIG. Nice vocal/solo. Good write! A winner all the way around! Take care. Greg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
ROG and Andy...
Nice job. That opening is sweet! Very much a signature ROG sound.
Cool melody on this - a little bit Henley, a little bit Grass Roots...
I like that little crack that Andy has in his vocals...
That lead really sings! Nice! Super tone.
Enjoyed a few listens...
floyd
Hi Floyd. Many thanks for listening - always value your views. Once we'd got the basics of the melody, Andy went to work experimenting with it and adapting the phrasing to suit his own style. The catch in his voice really works well, adding emotion to the vox and I put a bit of 4Khz on it to bring it out. Pleased you liked the lead - old Telecaster this time, DI'd with the California Sun Plug-in. Thanks again, ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
Really love the feel of this!! Sort of a Neal Young rocker. Drums sound very BIG. Nice vocal/solo. Good write! A winner all the way around! Take care. Greg Hi Greg. I DO like the Neil Young rocker reference! I use Realdrums a lot these days, but on this one it's sequenced up in midi using samples we made up ourselves, all heavily compressed to get the big sound. Thanks for the listen and kind comments. ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,063
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 5,063 |
+1 to what's already been said. Prof ya did it again. What a cool pop song/production.
I especially liked that melody, Andy's terrific sounding vocal oozes emotion and that guitar solo is super.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,219
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,219 |
ROG, Big sound! Andy's vocal sounds great. The guitars sound great throughout. That's a super idea about the three tracks of vocals. Like Alyn says, Why didn't I think of that. I sometimes boost my chorus vocals with volume automation, but your technique allows for different processing. I liked everything about this. Nicely done. Tom
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
+1 to what's already been said. Prof ya did it again. What a cool pop song/production.
I especially liked that melody, Andy's terrific sounding vocal oozes emotion and that guitar solo is super. Hey Josie. Many thanks for the review - I always like to get your opinion. Yeah, Andy can really pile on the emotion and I don't even have to remind him to do it these days! Glad you liked the solo, too. It was a fun chord sequence to solo over and another chance to use my old Telecaster - still my favourite guitar after all these years. Take care, ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
ROG, Big sound! Andy's vocal sounds great. The guitars sound great throughout. That's a super idea about the three tracks of vocals. Like Alyn says, Why didn't I think of that. I sometimes boost my chorus vocals with volume automation, but your technique allows for different processing. I liked everything about this. Nicely done. Tom Hi Tom. Thanks for the nice comments. Glad you liked the guitars - coming from a guitarist like you that's a great complement. These days, with so many tracks available, we use a new track for anything which might need it's own settings. It's why we always have such a high track count. I sometimes think back to the eight-track tape machines and how track eight would always have bits and pieces scattered all over the track. Each bit would need a different setting and there was no desk automation. We'd end up with several pairs of hands all trying to work different parts of the desk channel at the same time and all falling over each other. Happy days! Thanks again, ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,083
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,083 |
Holy cow! 48 tracks? Sheesh...my old brain would need a giant flowchart between the monitors for me to even think about something like that. I mixed in the 60's and 70's and not in our wildest imagination did we ever dream it would come to this.
This production sounds HUGE....but nothing gets in the way. The soundstage is stellar on our KRK's. I'm down with floyd's mention of Don Henley. We have enjoyed Henley for decades and Andy, for us, has that feel.
The write, the vocal, your playing, the arrangement, the production...the whole package is outstanding.
This one got added to our SC playlist before the song was half way through.
WTG guys!!
J&B
PS enjoyed reading about how it all came together.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,562
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,562 |
Loved the vocals. Very cool tune. Guitar intro was very nice as well
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,311 |
Holy cow! 48 tracks? Sheesh...my old brain would need a giant flowchart between the monitors for me to even think about something like that. I mixed in the 60's and 70's and not in our wildest imagination did we ever dream it would come to this.
This production sounds HUGE....but nothing gets in the way. The soundstage is stellar on our KRK's. I'm down with floyd's mention of Don Henley. We have enjoyed Henley for decades and Andy, for us, has that feel.
The write, the vocal, your playing, the arrangement, the production...the whole package is outstanding.
This one got added to our SC playlist before the song was half way through.
WTG guys!!
J&B
PS enjoyed reading about how it all came together. Hi J&B Thanks for the listen. We always admire the standard of your own stuff, so it's especially nice to get such positive comments from you. Yeah, the track count does sound excessive, doesn't it. One of the elements which contributed to this song was the amount of BVs. There are four different BVs - Oooh, Aaah, and two lines with lyrics. Each section was recorded on separate tracks, so that we could do sub-mixes. The Ooohs and Aaahs were in two-part harmony, so had eight tracks each and the lyrics BVs four each, giving us a total of 24 tracks. The beauty of assigning each section to a sub-group is that once we had a balance within the sections, all the BVs were controlled by just four faders. I sometimes get annoyed with computers, but at the end of the day, there's no way I'd want to go back to the old systems! Thanks again for looking in. ROG.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646 |
Nice work; great vocal; thanks for sharing!
My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,477
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,477 |
Hi, Rog and Andy !:))
WOW, what a tune !! and so expertly executed in every aspect !!!
My Rogfav from now on !!
Cheers Dani
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,660
Posts735,518
Members38,528
|
Most Online2,537 Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|