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NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams #307348 08/17/15 07:31 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa J JPeden73 OP Enthusiast
OP JPeden73 Enthusiast J Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa	Well I finally had some time to finish another song that I've been working on. I had a tougher time with this one as it came along pretty slowly over the past few months and has undergone many revisions. Here are the tracks used: Drums: NashvilleEven16 Percussion: Loop - Conga 8ths Bass: Electric Pop Sync Ev 135 ~521 Ac Guitar: Acoustic Syncopated Sugar Ev 102 ~380 El Guitar: Electric Rhythm Dire Ev 085 ~508 Piano: Acoustic Rhythm Pop16 Ev16 085 ~1767 I originally tried a realtrack guitar solo throughout but couldn't get it right so replaced it with sax of course)) The first five notes of the sax riff are Dream, Dream, Dream from the Everly's if you can spot them. Any way here it is: When I See You in My Dreams As always, thanks for finding the time to listen. Lyrics for those interested: Just the other night I woke up dreaming or it could've been that I was make-believing it was true. Then you faded out of view. Some dreams you don't recall. Others keep returning. Like the stars that fall the brightest ones keep burning thru igniting memories anew. I get a sweet surprise each time I close my eyes and drift away. When I see you in my dreams you take me there again back where it all began. When I see you in my dreams reliving every frame it always goes the same. Variations on a theme each time I see you in my dreams. I should find a way. Maybe tomorrow I will throw these dreams away and cast aside the sorrow too. It's not an easy thing to do. 'Cause when I close my eyes I will find you in the corner of my mind. When I see you in my dreams you take me there again back where it all began. When I see you in my dreams I'll hear you say the lines hold onto every word until you find away until you can't be heard. And there's static on the screen every time I see you in my dreams

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307358 08/17/15 09:01 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,831 Florida floyd jane Veteran
floyd jane Veteran Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,831 Florida	Jeff, This is really nice. Your writing is so "comfortable" - simple, but not trite - a real skill - Fogelberg did that ...Jackson Browne does that. Nice. Your vocal is a delight to listen to (nicely recorded, too). Nice harmonies. The arrangement and mix are excellent. Your sax is sweet (although a little "bright" compared to everything else in the mix). A great listen. floyd 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307373 08/17/15 10:40 AM User Showcase
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,048 The Netherlands RnAM Veteran
RnAM Veteran Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,048 The Netherlands	Hello Jeff, We are very pleasantly surprised to hear such a quality song! The lead vocal (which has a striking similarity with Timothy B Schmit) is top notch. The backing vocals (again sound very much like the Eagles) are also very professional. One little nit, and we agree with Floyd on this, the sax is slightly too loud and too bright in the mix. Looking forward to hearing more of you. Rob and Anne-Marie We are Rob Meulman and Anne-Marie Bovenkamp from The Netherlands. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gsdNLE7_Gy8qavoOplQow/videos http://rnam.net/

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307385 08/17/15 12:24 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 84 mwgilbert Enthusiast
mwgilbert Enthusiast Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 84	Very nicely done. It is harder than it appears to write a convincing pop song, and you have done just that. The arrangement is simple and works in support of the song, and you sing well, solo and backup. I agree with the previous poster - the sax is a bit too prominent. I'll also bet if you worked at it, you might find a better RealTrack that would make a solo that fit in a bit better, but that's also a taste judgement. All in all, good listen. -MWG - MWG http://www.mwgilbert.com

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307393 08/17/15 04:33 PM User Showcase
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,861 Sacramento, California dcuny Veteran
dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,861 Sacramento, California	Very pleasant, catchy pop! I agree with the previous posters about the sax, as well as all the positive things they've said. -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307394 08/17/15 04:38 PM User Showcase
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,165 South Carolina C Charlie Fogle Veteran
Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,165 South Carolina	Top notch at every level. Very professionally done. I agree that your vocals have the Eagles vibe to them which made your song that much more fun to listen to. Great job. Enjoyed this one from start to finish. Charlie BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307410 08/17/15 06:34 PM User Showcase
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,646 Kentucky P PgFantastic Veteran
PgFantastic Veteran P Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,646 Kentucky	SUPERB WORK; great vocal; and the production sounds great; thanks for sharing! My Tunes Psalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307417 08/17/15 10:44 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,573 Sydney Australia PeterF Veteran
PeterF Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,573 Sydney Australia	Very nice. And like everyone else the vocals and harmonies were excellent.

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307476 08/18/15 05:00 AM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,378 GA USA Janice & Bud Veteran
Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,378 GA USA	"Some dreams you don't recall. Others keep returning. Like the stars that fall the brightest ones keep burning thru igniting memories anew.' Outstanding. floyd mentioned Jackson Browne and we also feel that -- the fluidity of it all is very impressive and nice to the ears. The mix is super clean all the way around. Very nice harmony. Superb! J&B Our Music - Audio & Videos

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams Janice & Bud #307525 08/18/15 12:57 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa J JPeden73 OP Enthusiast
OP JPeden73 Enthusiast J Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa	Thanks to all for the generous feedback -- valuable as always. Several commented on the sax being a bit too loud in the mix and I would agree as well. I'm still searching for the best way to record and mix the sax into the BiaB stuff. I'll keep trying))) Floyd, Janice and Bud - Thanks for your comments about the lyrics. You guys have certainly provided several great examples on this forum in that regard. Rob and Anne-Marie - Thanks for listening and for the flattering comparison. I certainly aspire to reach your professional level of production. MWG - Thanks your feedback on the arrangement. Glad it worked for you. David - Thanks for taking the time. Greatly appreciated. Charlie - I always appreciate an Eagles reference. One of my favorites))) Robert - Thanks for the comments and good luck with your project. Peter - Thank you for the kind feedback.

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307625 08/19/15 01:52 PM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,285 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,285 Hamlin NY	Everything that I wanted to say already has been said. You vocals are outstanding! As are your harmonies! I would not replace the sax. I would just add a little EQ to it. Super song! Seated at the restaurant, He "Darling can you say something that makes my heart beat faster"? She "Your wife just walked in"! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307814 08/21/15 06:33 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,533 Cow Country, Florida Planobilly Veteran
Planobilly Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 2,533 Cow Country, Florida	Hi Jeff, Very good vocal and lyrical content. The harmonies were very well done. Very nice song to listen to. Cheers, Billy New location, new environment, new music coming soon Seize the moo-ment If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams JPeden73 #307816 08/21/15 06:38 AM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,205 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,205 Winston-Salem, NC USA	Jeff, Nice sounding production and a well crafted song. As others have pointed out the sax is too prominent as compared to your vocals. I agree with Mario that using EQ to cut some high frequencies might help. Curious if the sax RealTrack was the inspiration to do the modulations? It is very interesting when you did them. Really enjoy hearing your lead and harmony vocals. Boy but your voice sits well in that mix. Very difficult to do but you just nailed it. This is a really good song to listen to. In fact I'm going to listen again. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: NEW TRACK: When I See You in My Dreams Jim Fogle #307860 08/21/15 02:12 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa J JPeden73 OP Enthusiast
OP JPeden73 Enthusiast J Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 38 Iowa	Mario - I agree with the EQ on the sax. I am still tinkering with the best way to record and mix wind instruments. Thanks for listening and for the kind comments. Billy - Thanks for your comments and for the listen. Jim - The modulation came first (G to E) and originally I had a guitar Realtrack doing the interludes. But I couldn't come up with something I liked, so I recorded myself on the sax at the last minute - hence the issues with being too bright. Thanks for the feedback. Most appreciated.

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